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Teh almighty Scimonster.png
I must ask you, whether there is anything you'd like to tell me. Anything at all.

Albus Dumbledore, p. 209, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets


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Status:
Woohoo! The beta is down to become the release! (And guess who made the transition site? :D) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 08:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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FAQ

You rock. Have a trophy. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 14:43, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I pick the one on the left. :P <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 14:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Notice the URL has cheat in it...<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:30, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
It's because those trophies were drawn and animated by the fictional character The Cheat in Homestar Runner. ;) <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:33, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

moved files

Special:Log/move/12 I noticed above the first file you moved you didn't leave a redirect behind, but for the rest of the moved files you did. Was this on purpose? Or is there now a missing redirect page located at File:File Blocks.gif?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Oops, that was an accident. I'll go delete the other redirects. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 03:27, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

status

Mshnikhns maple often happily! Did I get it?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Nope. "When Adar arrives, we increase our joy." Because Purim is in the Hebrew month of Adar. Purim is actually this Saturday night-Sunday evening. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 03:32, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
(this is why Google Translate is often a bad idea) <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 04:16, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Template:Danger External programs

Edited the Template,Did what you wanted-What's a period? <scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 18:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Looks better now. :) A period is the American name for a full-stop. You know, the punctuation at the end of this sentence. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:18, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Done the period <scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 17:46, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Finished,Can It be a template? <scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 16:16, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Looks good! I'll give you the honor of moving it to Template:External Programs. :) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:22, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Will It be used now?<scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 19:55, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Sure. You can add it to pages if you want. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
But what's is the code I mean like,Template:Templatenamehere?<scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 20:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
It has a capital P. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 20:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Looks like you figured it out. {{External Programs}} <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 10:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Should I do it on Scratch Modification Pages?<scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 16:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. This would probably be a better question for the template's talk page, so other users will know to chime in. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 16:27, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Ah, yes, probably. It makes sense to put the template on those pages since younger users may click the link and try to download a version of something made for Mac when they have a Windows computer.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 14:55, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Set X to () (block): Why your wording?

Your wording: "The block changes the selected sprite's X position by the specified amount. This block, combined with the Set Y to () block, have the same effect as the Go to X: () Y: () block." My wording: "The block changes the selected sprite's X position to the specified amount. This block, combined with the Set Y to () block, have an effect similar to the Go to X: () Y: () block." Why "by"? And if you say "the same effect", it contradicts what is said on the Go to X: () Y: () (block) page about the workaround a "common mistake by new scratchers" and "not being an accurate workaround". I can understand the piping links in see also (I think), though. <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 15:21, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, that was an accident. I'm using the grouped recent changes, so it grouped all the edits, and i didn't realize that (undo) would undo all, not just the last edit. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 15:31, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Kthxbai <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 22:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki Question

How do I strip leading whitespace? I want to strip a leading newline character from the response of a special page so that I can do arithmetic on it with #expr.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 07:43, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, don't know how. I tried a few things. BTW, it seems like there's a DELETE character at the beginning of the output of EditCount. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:23, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
DELETE's a character? That's just crazy. Tell me if you figure it out.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 13:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
You didn't know that? It's even in ASCII! :P <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 14:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Can you do something for me?

Can you please run the following JS snippet on your console on your Linux? If it doesn't tell you you're on Linux, scream at me.

var OS=function(){var e=["Win","MacIntel","Linux"];var t=window.navigator.platform;var n=function(e){return e==t.slice(0,e.length)};if(n("Win"))return"Windows";if(n("MacIntel"))return"Mac";if(n("Linux"))return"Linux"}();prompt("Your OS is:",OS);

Also, can you tell me how tough it is to install Scratch (1.4) on Linux and Windows? I need to get Scratch running on around 5 different laptops relatively fast for some people, and I'm anxious about installation issues.

Thanks.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 05:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

It tells me Linux.
Scratch is easy to install on Windows. On Ubuntu Linux, there's a working DEB (which only sometimes fails). For Fedora, there's a user-made RPM, but it doesn't always open. I just got an error opening it. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 09:06, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, sci. Let's pray nobody will be cool enough to have Linux.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 13:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
That code is causing the page to glitch. You should probably put it somewhere else or remove it if you know what it was before and don't really need it anymore<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 14:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Fixed, sorry about that. :)<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 15:40, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

page updating

Your userpage has links to nonexistent external links and has some way outdated info.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 18:59, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I know it's outdated. What broken external links? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:29, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
The vote for Sci campaign link, this one.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 21:33, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh, that. If i can find the files i'll put it back up. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 07:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

New avatar?

I'm so used to the red "scimonster" avatar, that the new star of David had me confused for a second! ;) Is it just for today?<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 11:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

It's for Holocaust Memorial Day. Israel commemorated it on the 8th this year, and on the 11th is the official international date, so i'm leaving it up until then. During the war, Jews 14 and older had to wear a yellow star of David with the word Jude (Jew in German), so that's what i did for these few days. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 11:24, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Who made them wear the hats? Did they choose too or was it the you know who's who forced them to?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 21:17, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
That sentence took me a couple of minutes to parse lexically… it doesn't help that the whole thing's a mild rhyming tongue twister with weird grammar. :P<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 10:01, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
They weren't hats, they were bands of some sort, or pins. I'm not sure exactly what. And it was a Nazi decree. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 11:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Necklaces? That's what I read in Counting the Stars by Lois Lowry. <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 20:08, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
No, the necklace there was just a piece of jewelry. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 09:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Deleting a protecting pages

I was wondering how all this "deleting a protecting pages" stuff works. For the current MediaWiki-made Scratch Wiki, is it in that drop-down menu on pages like Watch and Move. Then what are the things you have to fill out for deleting and protecting pages? Those are my wonders. I also thought you could put some mockups on your userpage. That's an idea. I hope I can get some answers!<scratchsig>Legobob23o</scratchsig> 14:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Right now it's in that dropdown, but when we had the Scratch theme, it was in that bar.
For deleting, there's a dropdown with these options, and also an insert field where you can type in something else.
For protecting, there are 2 levels: edit, and move. Usually, move is automatically kept in sync with edit levels. You can choose whether all users can edit, only "autoconfirmed" users (i think that's everyone though), or only admins. You also choose the time, with "infinite" the default. You can choose a predefined offset (i.e 1 hour, 1 month, 6 months, 1 year) or a custom time. Also choose cascading protecting (default no), which means protect pages transcluded in this page. Then choose one of these options, or type in your own.
Does that help? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:17, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Curator/List of Curators

I removed the link the Curator because there was already a link to the article right on the top-left of the page indicating that "List of Curators" was a subpage. I just wanted to let you know. :D <scratchsig>Legobob23o</scratchsig> 15:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

just so you know, meta things like that don't really count just because they're so out of the way, not part of the article's body, and could easily be missed by someone not familiar with the more advanced aspects of wikis (and we're catering to a young audience here) <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 19:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Question about 2.0

I figured you were the best to ask: how will the old forums be archived? At the same URL (/forums) or somewhere else? You would have to do some serious overhauling of links if the URLs changed…<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 05:36, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I heard that it might be on an Amazon S3 server or something. Links to the old forums will redirect to the archived copy. That's gonna be a tricky regex, because they have to send people either to the old forums or the new ones, depending on the format (.php or not, basically). <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 10:47, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
It's not too tricky! "http:\/\/scratch\.mit\.edu\/forums\/viewtopic\.php\?.*", right?<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 11:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
But you also have search, index, misc, profile, and all the admin stuff. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, I guess that's secondary. Most of the links on the Wiki point to posts.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 13:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Block-based CSS

Check out http://cssdesk.com — what do you think? Also, take a look at http://raphaeljs.com (especially the demos). It might be nice to work with Raphael to make something cool; you program the UI while I can handle the algorithms under the hood (and the complaining about lack of UI features ;) ). Finally, look at LESS CSS—I think we should definitely add some of those features (global constants, for one, are really important to me to the point where I have an implementation to replace @bgcol with the background color! :D).

Or we could use Morphic, though you mentioned you wanted to use DOM, which is fine with me.

(Can you please make an AT thread for this? I don't like discussing on the Wiki, it's not as nice as the forums. No offense, but it's a Wiki. :P) 16:40, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
LESS was pretty essential for scratchblocks2. Interrupting rudely (you totally need a forum thread) — how are those angled booleans going? :D <scratchsig>Blob8108</scratchsig> 18:59, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
CSSdesk was interesting... RaphaelJS looks pretty cool, and i would consider using it for some things. Having some LESS features seems pretty good.
I would make an AT thread now, except it's too late for me, and i actually check the forums less often than the wiki... But (echoing Jens) couldn't we discuss over email? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:48, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Too late as in late at night, right? :P
Anyway, chances are we'll end up working separately on different modules and bringing it together in the end—which is a perfectly fine and productive way to go. So I still vote for AT thread.
Did we decide what we're making yet, BTW? :P 08:31, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, late at night. Well, what do you think about my suggestion? An HTML/CSS live developer, which makes it much easier to create a good looking page. Basically, you drag out HTML elements to the page, where it gets added to the DOM over there. Then, you can edit the content and add styling. Styling includes simple text styling (color, font-*, text-*) using an editor similar to that found in many rich text editors, and box model styling, where you can move it around with margins, padding, and position:relative, along with adjusting the size with the mouse (like, cursor:resize-n). An alternate view would let you view the DOM in blocks, and third lets you view the CSS (LESS style, which gets automatically compiled when you save). Of course, if we're already doing blocks, we don't need to do @var syntax - it can just be a variable block. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 09:28, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


FAQ

You rock. Have a trophy. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 14:43, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I pick the one on the left. :P <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 14:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Notice the URL has cheat in it...<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:30, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
It's because those trophies were drawn and animated by the fictional character The Cheat in Homestar Runner. ;) <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:33, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

moved files

Special:Log/move/12 I noticed above the first file you moved you didn't leave a redirect behind, but for the rest of the moved files you did. Was this on purpose? Or is there now a missing redirect page located at File:File Blocks.gif?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Oops, that was an accident. I'll go delete the other redirects. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 03:27, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

status

Mshnikhns maple often happily! Did I get it?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Nope. "When Adar arrives, we increase our joy." Because Purim is in the Hebrew month of Adar. Purim is actually this Saturday night-Sunday evening. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 03:32, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
(this is why Google Translate is often a bad idea) <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 04:16, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Template:Danger External programs

Edited the Template,Did what you wanted-What's a period? <scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 18:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Looks better now. :) A period is the American name for a full-stop. You know, the punctuation at the end of this sentence. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:18, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Done the period <scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 17:46, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Finished,Can It be a template? <scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 16:16, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Looks good! I'll give you the honor of moving it to Template:External Programs. :) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:22, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Will It be used now?<scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 19:55, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Sure. You can add it to pages if you want. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
But what's is the code I mean like,Template:Templatenamehere?<scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 20:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
It has a capital P. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 20:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Looks like you figured it out. {{External Programs}} <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 10:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Should I do it on Scratch Modification Pages?<scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig> 16:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. This would probably be a better question for the template's talk page, so other users will know to chime in. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 16:27, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Ah, yes, probably. It makes sense to put the template on those pages since younger users may click the link and try to download a version of something made for Mac when they have a Windows computer.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 14:55, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Set X to () (block): Why your wording?

Your wording: "The block changes the selected sprite's X position by the specified amount. This block, combined with the Set Y to () block, have the same effect as the Go to X: () Y: () block." My wording: "The block changes the selected sprite's X position to the specified amount. This block, combined with the Set Y to () block, have an effect similar to the Go to X: () Y: () block." Why "by"? And if you say "the same effect", it contradicts what is said on the Go to X: () Y: () (block) page about the workaround a "common mistake by new scratchers" and "not being an accurate workaround". I can understand the piping links in see also (I think), though. <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 15:21, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, that was an accident. I'm using the grouped recent changes, so it grouped all the edits, and i didn't realize that (undo) would undo all, not just the last edit. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 15:31, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Kthxbai <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 22:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki Question

How do I strip leading whitespace? I want to strip a leading newline character from the response of a special page so that I can do arithmetic on it with #expr.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 07:43, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, don't know how. I tried a few things. BTW, it seems like there's a DELETE character at the beginning of the output of EditCount. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:23, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
DELETE's a character? That's just crazy. Tell me if you figure it out.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 13:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
You didn't know that? It's even in ASCII! :P <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 14:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Can you do something for me?

Can you please run the following JS snippet on your console on your Linux? If it doesn't tell you you're on Linux, scream at me.

var OS=function(){var e=["Win","MacIntel","Linux"];var t=window.navigator.platform;var n=function(e){return e==t.slice(0,e.length)};if(n("Win"))return"Windows";if(n("MacIntel"))return"Mac";if(n("Linux"))return"Linux"}();prompt("Your OS is:",OS);

Also, can you tell me how tough it is to install Scratch (1.4) on Linux and Windows? I need to get Scratch running on around 5 different laptops relatively fast for some people, and I'm anxious about installation issues.

Thanks.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 05:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

It tells me Linux.
Scratch is easy to install on Windows. On Ubuntu Linux, there's a working DEB (which only sometimes fails). For Fedora, there's a user-made RPM, but it doesn't always open. I just got an error opening it. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 09:06, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, sci. Let's pray nobody will be cool enough to have Linux.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 13:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
That code is causing the page to glitch. You should probably put it somewhere else or remove it if you know what it was before and don't really need it anymore<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 14:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Fixed, sorry about that. :)<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 15:40, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

page updating

Your userpage has links to nonexistent external links and has some way outdated info.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 18:59, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I know it's outdated. What broken external links? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:29, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
The vote for Sci campaign link, this one.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 21:33, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh, that. If i can find the files i'll put it back up. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 07:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

New avatar?

I'm so used to the red "scimonster" avatar, that the new star of David had me confused for a second! ;) Is it just for today?<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 11:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

It's for Holocaust Memorial Day. Israel commemorated it on the 8th this year, and on the 11th is the official international date, so i'm leaving it up until then. During the war, Jews 14 and older had to wear a yellow star of David with the word Jude (Jew in German), so that's what i did for these few days. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 11:24, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Who made them wear the hats? Did they choose too or was it the you know who's who forced them to?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 21:17, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
That sentence took me a couple of minutes to parse lexically… it doesn't help that the whole thing's a mild rhyming tongue twister with weird grammar. :P<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 10:01, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
They weren't hats, they were bands of some sort, or pins. I'm not sure exactly what. And it was a Nazi decree. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 11:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Necklaces? That's what I read in Counting the Stars by Lois Lowry. <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 20:08, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
No, the necklace there was just a piece of jewelry. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 09:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Deleting a protecting pages

I was wondering how all this "deleting a protecting pages" stuff works. For the current MediaWiki-made Scratch Wiki, is it in that drop-down menu on pages like Watch and Move. Then what are the things you have to fill out for deleting and protecting pages? Those are my wonders. I also thought you could put some mockups on your userpage. That's an idea. I hope I can get some answers!<scratchsig>Legobob23o</scratchsig> 14:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Right now it's in that dropdown, but when we had the Scratch theme, it was in that bar.
For deleting, there's a dropdown with these options, and also an insert field where you can type in something else.
For protecting, there are 2 levels: edit, and move. Usually, move is automatically kept in sync with edit levels. You can choose whether all users can edit, only "autoconfirmed" users (i think that's everyone though), or only admins. You also choose the time, with "infinite" the default. You can choose a predefined offset (i.e 1 hour, 1 month, 6 months, 1 year) or a custom time. Also choose cascading protecting (default no), which means protect pages transcluded in this page. Then choose one of these options, or type in your own.
Does that help? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:17, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Curator/List of Curators

I removed the link the Curator because there was already a link to the article right on the top-left of the page indicating that "List of Curators" was a subpage. I just wanted to let you know. :D <scratchsig>Legobob23o</scratchsig> 15:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

just so you know, meta things like that don't really count just because they're so out of the way, not part of the article's body, and could easily be missed by someone not familiar with the more advanced aspects of wikis (and we're catering to a young audience here) <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 19:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Question about 2.0

I figured you were the best to ask: how will the old forums be archived? At the same URL (/forums) or somewhere else? You would have to do some serious overhauling of links if the URLs changed…<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 05:36, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I heard that it might be on an Amazon S3 server or something. Links to the old forums will redirect to the archived copy. That's gonna be a tricky regex, because they have to send people either to the old forums or the new ones, depending on the format (.php or not, basically). <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 10:47, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
It's not too tricky! "http:\/\/scratch\.mit\.edu\/forums\/viewtopic\.php\?.*", right?<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 11:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
But you also have search, index, misc, profile, and all the admin stuff. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, I guess that's secondary. Most of the links on the Wiki point to posts.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 13:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Block-based CSS

Check out http://cssdesk.com — what do you think? Also, take a look at http://raphaeljs.com (especially the demos). It might be nice to work with Raphael to make something cool; you program the UI while I can handle the algorithms under the hood (and the complaining about lack of UI features ;) ). Finally, look at LESS CSS—I think we should definitely add some of those features (global constants, for one, are really important to me to the point where I have an implementation to replace @bgcol with the background color! :D).

Or we could use Morphic, though you mentioned you wanted to use DOM, which is fine with me.

(Can you please make an AT thread for this? I don't like discussing on the Wiki, it's not as nice as the forums. No offense, but it's a Wiki. :P) 16:40, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
LESS was pretty essential for scratchblocks2. Interrupting rudely (you totally need a forum thread) — how are those angled booleans going? :D <scratchsig>Blob8108</scratchsig> 18:59, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
CSSdesk was interesting... RaphaelJS looks pretty cool, and i would consider using it for some things. Having some LESS features seems pretty good.
I would make an AT thread now, except it's too late for me, and i actually check the forums less often than the wiki... But (echoing Jens) couldn't we discuss over email? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:48, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Too late as in late at night, right? :P
Anyway, chances are we'll end up working separately on different modules and bringing it together in the end—which is a perfectly fine and productive way to go. So I still vote for AT thread.
Did we decide what we're making yet, BTW? :P 08:31, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, late at night. Well, what do you think about my suggestion? An HTML/CSS live developer, which makes it much easier to create a good looking page. Basically, you drag out HTML elements to the page, where it gets added to the DOM over there. Then, you can edit the content and add styling. Styling includes simple text styling (color, font-*, text-*) using an editor similar to that found in many rich text editors, and box model styling, where you can move it around with margins, padding, and position:relative, along with adjusting the size with the mouse (like, cursor:resize-n). An alternate view would let you view the DOM in blocks, and third lets you view the CSS (LESS style, which gets automatically compiled when you save). Of course, if we're already doing blocks, we don't need to do @var syntax - it can just be a variable block. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 09:28, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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