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Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?

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I was a little bit astonished seeing no reaction to

and

Both GP (Programming Language) (de:GP (Programmiersprache)) and BeetleBlocks (de:Beetle Blocks] are great new scratch-based awaysome Programming Environments, created by the scratch-wide known inventors Eric Rosenbaum (MaKey MaKey) and John Maloney (main developer of Scratch for 10 years) & Jens MΓΆnig (creator of BYOB & Snap!). Both innovations were presented at de:Scratch2015AMS. Because we are not as fluid in the English language we wrote German articles at the DACH-Scratch-Wiki about it. Furthermore there are more very interesting articles in the DACH Scratch Wiki that have no corresponding article in the English Scratch Wiki and additional there are innovations like TurtleStich and Tickle that have no article in any Scratch Wiki. (see Conference Program (english!!!)) and Conference Videos (English!!!) of de:Scratch2015AMS.

I thought it would be enough to shortly mention that. I thought many curious English scratch-wiki-authors would have a look the German articles, see that there is much English information linked to it, like Videos and other Webpages, have a look at the picture and google-translate the German text to get an impression and then start to create English articles about it here.

I also think that the innovations presented at the Scratch-Conferences and the Conferences them self are much underrepresented here at the English Scratch Wiki. I saw threads at this CP about "I wish I was at the wiki some years before when there where much more new articles left to be created" or threads about creating more icons for talk pages of the Wiki or other wiki-community-related things...I wonder how that fits to that utterly lack of curiosity about awesome innovations happening in the "World of Scratch" (excuse me for that provocative style...I hope that helps to get more reaction, so it's meant really positive  ;-)

...Perhaps now I gave enough information to wake up the curiosity of some people? I am really looking forward what will happen :)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:30, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

I will work on an article about beetle blocks now. :)
JayceeMinecraftlogo.png JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions
Great start for article BeetleBlocks! :-) I added the Interwiki-Link. You could get pictures from the German article.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 01:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
What's about The Scratch Song, GP (Programming Language), TurtleStich, Tickle and other innovations mentioned at de:Scratch2015AMS? Who want's to write English articles about it? Also BeetleBlocks seems to be not fished...
see:.

Not Done!!

No Not done because there are still many articles to write suggested above
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:51, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Hey there! I'll start working on TurtleStitch and once I'm done with that, I'll probably do another one. Thanks! Here is the TurtleStich one: http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/TurtleStich#About_TurtleStich
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 13:31, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Great, Thanks!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I got started on Tickle. It's quite short as I found it difficult to find information. If anyone could help, that would be great!

Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:34, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
@Hamish752: Thanks for making a start with Tickle :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:53, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

List of potential articles and sources

(Please feel free to at potential articles and sources, but discuss in the above section, to keep that here a "working list"
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:07, 22 January 2016 (UTC))

WikiEditor Extension

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Can you install it? It is on the test wiki. It is a good tool. It enhances the editing toolbar. It comes with mediawiki. Just put require_once "$IP/extensions/WikiEditor/WikiEditor.php"; --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 17:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Anybody agree? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
What does the extension do?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 00:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
It enhances the editing toolbar a LOT. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 09:49, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I agree because comes with Mediawiki an only must be activated to have some help with formating wiki-syntax in the editor. You could activate it to see the difference and deactivate later it if you don't like it.
@JayceeMinecraft: Just post a screenshot, also a link helps more to explain https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor. I still not understod completely why it's already in the Mediawiki-Distribution when it is a PlugIn

MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
So will an admin install it please? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 16:08, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

@jvvg I tried scmb1. No response. Jvvg, since you are well known could you try asking somebody please? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 17:08, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
scmb1 is very busy - i emailed her and she still hasn't gotten back to me. this is about the 2nd week
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, if you look at her profile, you'll see that I voiced my support to your comment. However, she is a college student (or at least was last year, I don't know what year she is), and is very busy and may take a while to get back to us. For now, we just have to wait.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
You've waited for almost two years, is this done or not?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:49, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Not Done!!

No Not done because until now there is nobody who has the knowledge and takes the responsibility for that Blocks Plugin Tasks at the Scratch Wikis. The only persons I know who, could have the knowledge are user:blob8108 and user:JSO but as I understand it, they would not like to take the responsibility, so we must find somebody else who will build up the knowledge (must know something about Javascript and Wiki-Administration). Who?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:58, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I found out how to edit the Blocks Plugin so it works for a specific language. It's in fact very easy. I tested it with the dutch wiki and it worked. Which wikis still need the Blocks Plugin? Japanese, Hungarian and Russian? - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 17:18, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Dmith our russian Wiki Admin suggested to make a topic about this in the Advanced Topics to ask for help. What do you think? Who would like to create such a topic? - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 14:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea, specially to find help from outside the wiki, perhaps by the scratch team or advanced programmer who want to join and help us. Who is able to invest some time to modarare this? I think the best candidate would be one sysop/admin of the international Wikis (see de:WikiWatch) because of the direct access to the plugin. Who of you is interested?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 10:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
I've also talked about it with P110 and he'll check it ou. So maybe let's wait till SC on monday :) - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 13:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?

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At the DACH-Scratch-Wiki we are interested in a Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis, but until now we did not find somebody who could integrate it. If you have a look at Scratch-Wikis on a mobile device, you'll see that's really difficult to read it and nearly impossible to edit. Also Search-Engines rank down Websites that don't use Responsible Design. It should not be to difficult to integrate Responsive Design, because you could take the Wikipedia Skin as a template Here is a Manual that could help:

Who of you is interested and who is able to manage it?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 08:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I would love to help out, but that kind of stuff isn't my area sadly :(.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:42, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I am interested in helping out. I have experience coding (Html, CSS, Java, Python, some JS), and depending on my schedule, I think I can help out. I should be able to tell for sure if I can help or not by or on Saturday.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 12:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@ErnieParke: Great! It also would be good, to have an Admin of the English Scratch-Wiki helping with this...
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 09:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
This should be a collaborative effort :) I want to help out but I already scheduled a lot of other things, so I can't do it all myself. @ErnieParke: If you are going to work on it, can you put the code on GitHub so that I can maybe I can do tweaks to it and make a pull request? And I am sure there are also other interested Scratchers! @MartinWollenweber: Great idea!
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 12:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
sure, I'll put any work on github.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 10:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Update: I don't think I have enough time or the expertise to make a mobile design. Sorry. Maybe jvvg could help here?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Not Done!

No Not done but I hope somone of the SW-admins is able to help. I think this will get important, as the Scratch-Team is also working an a mobile-device-version of Scratch (preview was shown at de:Scratch2015AMS including iOS-device :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC) +
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:00, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"

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Click this picture to jump to "ScratchWiki:Watch"

To hold this long thread readable I build sub-Threads. I also moved individual conversions and answered it there (hope you don't mind). Please write new appliances to get " "International Scratch Wiki Coach"" there. Please answer each Sub-Thread at it's end:

Introduction

After presenting at de:Scratch2015AMS (see [1]) (and before at de:Scratch2013BCN see[2]) we have some just starting International Scratch Wikis. We found out, that there is much more work, than me de:user:Mtwoll, de:user:LiFaytheGoblin and de:user:akhof can handle.

We just started international Scratch-Wikis where we were sure, that there are Scratchers of that language that would really work hard for their Scratch-Wiki, but it seems that those people all need help, coaching and motivation, to cope with the problems of a just started Wiki: It seems that only id: is completely on the right track until now (Thanks to id:user:Rumanti, who made a great start and motivated some other Indonesian Scartchers to help). ru: is also evolving slowly but there seem to be too less active authors with just ru:user:Dimon4ezzz and ru:user:Timkoiko. With ja: we have great hopes in ja:user:Jp86143 and ja:user:Abee who just started. But hu: and nl: are still in a kind of "starting position".

In opposite to the English and German Scratch-wiki the starting Scratch-Wiki-Authors have no templates and existing articles where they can look up what is needed and mostly less experiance in Wikimedia-Syntax. Also some of them have problems with the English language: Naturally they know it, but everything lasts longer with misunderstandings and so on. (My English isn't perfect either, but where is a will there is a way ;-) Ironically the language-communities that have the biggest problems with English language need a Scratch-Wiki the most. Imagine the English Scratch-Wiki had nearly zero articles and templates and you could only see other wikis in languages that you know only a little bit. Also imagine that your Scratch community was not so big than the english-language one (see Wikipedia: World_language#Living world languages).

How would you start? Therefore I'm asking you for your help: Who of you wants to get β€žInternational Scratch Wiki Coach "? You would get an account and perhaps also admin-rights at all existing international wikis (depending on your activity). You should be an experienced Scratch-Wiki author in the English Wiki (>1 year membership and >300 edits?). We already have some de:Scratch-Wiki:Team_Mitglieder#Interwiki Autoren but that's only Interwiki, not coaching. It would really be great, if some of the English Scratch-Wiki-Admins would also apply for this job: They would immediately get Admin rights at all other international Wikis and perhaps also FTP-rights, if they are experienced with that "under the hood"-stuff. To see what goes on, we have made de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch. There are also many other ideas from the International Scratch-Wiki-Community (e.g. automized-account-application everywere, multinational-accounts like in Wikipedia, international templates, Scratch-Projects inside the Scratch-Wiki like we have it in DACH, international Blocks Plugin support, #Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?, conecting scratch-wikis as a part of the scratch-editor-help…)...

...but let's begin with the beginning :-) Who wants to help and applies for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:16, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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Individual Threads with scratch-wiki-authors that want to help

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answer of TheHockeyist

answer of KrIsMa

answer of ErnieParke

answer of jvvg

answer of Mathfreak231

answer of Rumanti

Forum Thread: Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language

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@All: Am I right that all of you know this Forum Thread? Diskussionsforen Β» Translating Scratch Β» Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language (New)] . user:ErnieParke created it and sort of curates it (Thank you very much Ernie!). There are some other language communities that could be ready to start with their own native wiki in the future.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)

Link-Table: Authors wih multiple Scratch-Wiki-Accounts

I put a Table here that shows de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch#Authors wih multiple Scratch-Wiki-Accounts. Please feel free to correct it if there are any mistakes.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more

First Successes

It's great that so many experienced scratch-wiki-members will help us with international wiki and we had the first success within a few days:

If you want to have a impression of the international scratch community, have a look at this videos of the Scratch2015AMS-Conference. You will also find a (horrible ;-) video of user:LiFaytheGoblin and me there, where we try to introduce our international scratch wiki idea. You will also find many other People at the multiple short videos, that you perhaps could know, like Joren Lauwers user:JSO, Tim, Connor & Michael, Jens MΓΆnig & John Malloney that gave a first look at their logical successor of BYOB & Snap! called GP, Ricarose & Eric from the Scratch-Video-Update, Eric Rosenbaum, Mitch Resnick and so on... best is the whole international scratch community singing the Scratch song :-) de:Scratch2015AMS was real great!


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 22:17, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Seriously this is even better than everything is expected! I noticed we have the authentication system now (THANKS A TON, jvvg) but wow so much happening in the other wikis as well! This is great!!! Thanks everyone, I can't wait to see what the next weeks will bring :D - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 10:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Test-Scratch-Wiki is online!

Like explained in "#New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more" we started http://TEST.scratch-wiki.info/ that will have much lower restriction for new wiki-authors and that will be a kind of "really big sandbox", where everybody who wants can start a scratch-wiki of his own language to prove if he is able. We will help and coach to make a start, but only if we see success there (>50 articles + homepage), we will start a real wiki for this language. There is still much work to do, because until now this wiki is completely empty. We should write/copy help-text and templates there. user:jvvg, de:LiFaytheGoblin and de:mtwoll are admins there and I hope that user:jvvg will manage to create an automatic account creation system that fits to the targets of this test-scratch-wiki.

@user:jvvg: Please write here when it works and how to use it, so that everybody who wants to help can join.

We need your ideas an help to make this happen! Find most important international links at de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch. Please comment here, what you will do to help. Thank you in advance!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:28, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Good to know! What do you recommend we do with this forum topic ?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:56, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
The test-wiki is not ready for start now, but after it is ready, we should inform all participants of this this forum topic how they immediately can get authors in the test-wiki and how they can make a start for the first 50 pages and the community of a scratch-wiki in their own language there. I suggest you prepare the invitation and explanation text in a sandbox (you could take the text above and shorten it as a start), so that we all can take part in creating this text. We should not inform the participants of that thread to early, because we still need some time for preparation. I think it will decrease success if we start inviting new authors without having everything ready.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 01:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Not Done!


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:54, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I already joined. :P
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 15:28, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that's great! Hope many other will join us. I already wrote at your user-DISC, see: http://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User_talk:AghaCool :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Yep! I told fmtfmtfmt2 to join and his account was accepted.:)
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 15:39, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?

No Not done Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal? In de:Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal it is no problem (but in and id:Pembicaraan_Scratch-Indo-Wiki:Portal_Komunitas it seems to be, just tried it...).
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 14:00, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Hmm.. Does the CP needs interwiki(s)? Because I didn't see any interwiki in this CP.
Really_A (talk | contribs) 23:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Interwiki at cp only means that the cp's of all Scratch-Wikis would have a language-link box, so you could switch between them fast and find them without knowing the language (like Interwiki in any article). Surely it only helps you if you have a lttle knowledge of the other language, or if they use english for some threads (what we often do in DACH because we have some non-german-speaking authors that help us). If you put [[:de|Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal]] in the cp here (that should create the Interwiki-Link to Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal) it has not that effect like in an article, because cp is somehow special configurated.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh I see. Anyway, I have a question; should I add an interwikis to the Indo wiki?
Really_A (talk | contribs) 14:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
id: already has Interwiki, as you can see in multiple articles that have a language-link in the language-Box to other Scratch-Wikis (like the Homepage). See Scratch_Wiki:Interwiki for explanation of Interwiki. But you can look for possibly missing Interwiki-Links.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, I see. But the indo's CP still doesn't has any interwiki.
Really_A (talk | contribs) 09:02, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Interwiki seems only to be possible at certain group of pages. Surely I could setup it somewhere in the config of the international scratch-wikis (because I'm admin+bureaucrat+sysop ), but I don't know where to do it. At de: there seems to be a configuration difference (possibly an error :-) that allows you to interwiki-connect de:Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal. Does somebody know how to set up wiki-config, so interwiki-connection works for every cp? As I'm no admin+bureaucrat+sysop of this English wiki, I couldn't do it here, even if I knew how ;-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:44, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:29, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Not Done!

This Thread is No Not done! Because I think we should find a way to Interwiki-connect the community portals of all international Scratch-Wikis here:*


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:00, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I am currently looking into this problem. It seems to be stemming from the fact that our CP is a talk page, but the DACH/Indo CP are not.
This problem is even present on the DACH wiki. See my talk page: [:de:Benutzer_Diskussion:ErnieParke]
Do you mind if I do a quick interwiki test on the Test wiki?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:26, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, do that test, that's a good idea!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:56, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
The only other way is to change the cp into mainspace, which is not feasible.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:38, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
I tried looking up some information but it is proving to be hard to understand. For now, I will try translating a DACH article (if there are any not translated yet).
ErnieParke (talk | contribs)
Thank you very much for trying, I also try to learn more about mediawiki-namespaces and their different effects, perhaps we find a solution in the future. Until than this thread will stay have the state No Not done
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 07:48, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Scratch Team Involvement in the Wiki

No Not done - since just edited

I have found two articles that are protected and only the Scratch Team can edit that are in much need of updating, clean up, or keeping up to wiki standards.

For example, Scratch Helper Groups is very short, and I would consider it a stub. Also, I believe "Future additions include groups that will support giving project feedback and moderating the Scratch forums." is no longer accurate.

Scratch Press is another good example. There are typos, missing categories, and missing templates on this page. "Lifehacker (February 2015) Top 10 Ways to Teacher Yourself to Code" should be "Lifehacker (February 2015) Top 10 Ways to Teach Yourself to Code". The page should have an External Programs and a Scratch Team Page template. It should also be categorized under Category:Scratch Culture.

How do we get the Scratch Team more involved in what happens on the wiki? What do we do to fix articles like these that aren't editable by us? Are there any active Scratch Team members that have wiki accounts or are interested in the wiki? Can these problems be fixed by an admin or EW?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 22:44, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

The Wiki is fairly autonomous and the Scratch Team really doesn't do much with it. Consequently, most of them don't really know how it works that well and aren't familiar with the writing standards we use. It would be nice to have the Scratch Team involved, as having technical issues resolved can take up to a week, even though the issue itself may be fairly simple. The possible upshot is that I may be going to MIT this fall (if I get in, fingers crossed), and if I do, they will likely let me administer the Wiki as a Scratch Team member. However, in the meantime, I actually can't edit the pages. They are only editable by Scratch Team members.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:01, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
user:LiFaytheGoblin could surely help: She is DACH-Scratch-Wiki-Author and Admin and currently became a new Scratch-Team-Member. Also Christan (user ceebee) a member of the Scratch-Team visited our weekley online hangout de:Scratch Club curently. The Scratch-Team seems to be interested to make more conections to the Scratch-Wikis again. An article with suggestions and wishes, how the Wikis could be even more connected with the Scratch-Mainpage and the Community could be a good idea.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 19:15, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
I only have normal user rights here in the wiki as far as I see... However if I had the rights, I'd prefer if people rewrite the article on their talk page and I copy it over, so I don't have to worry about my english... - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 22:57, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
@Lifay: I suggest you ask the Scratch-Team to give you Bureaucrats-Rights:I think you would care for the wiki much more than anyone else of the Scratch-Team. I would also be happy if user:jvvg would get Scratch-Team-Member and Bureaucrat, because he is one of the most experienced Scratch-Wiki-Admins, but for the moment I think the fastest way getting a wiki-experienced-scratch-team-bureaucrat is Lifay applying for it. --
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 00:12, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
I have the ST status in the Wiki now, so if you need anything, feel free to talk to me on my talk page... - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 18:48, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
@LiFaytheGoblin: Congratulation to your ST-Rights at the Scratch-Wiki that will profit much by that!
ST-Status means Admin, Bureaucrat and Editlockedpages-rights. Many ST-Members have that rights, but did not use it much, nor involved much in the Scratch-Wiki. But as LiFaytheGoblin has been very active at the international Scratch-Wikis many years before getting member of the ST, she will surely help the Scratch-Wiki much more and faster. As the admins user:ErnieParke, user:Jvvg and user:KrIsMa are in regularly exchange with her and us via the international Scratch-Wiki exchange (e.g. at http://test.scratch-wiki.info/ and de:Scratch-Wiki:Scratch_Club ) and that admins have technically knowledge and access to our international scratch-wiki-servers, hopefully even problems that need server-access will be solved faster, because we can try & test solutions at the international Scratch-wikis-servers and give that knowledge as an example to the ST via LiFaytheGoblin. First successes are user:ErnieParkes installations of a multi-language-version of the Blocks Plugin at the international Scratch-Wikis (see e.g: de:user:ErnieParke and ja:user:Frodewin and http://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User:ErnieParke )
So that are really good news!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 13:00, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Scratch Extensions

I have compiled a list of Scratch Extensions I believe dont have an article, and some are up for debate. Any numbers at the time of this posting are from the extension download site (The Chrome Web Store), and not the extensions' site, at the time this was posted. I do not endorse or say that any of these are safe:

IsOnline v2 - https://scratchtools.tk/isonline/ and https://aremyfriends.online/ - Display on a users' profile whether they are currently active on Scratch. Download site can be accessed at ison.ga and isonline.tk - which redirect to https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/isonline/pabjccjpgemijhffgnaamebfbcnalghj. 923 Users.

Scratch Messaging Extension - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scratch-messaging-extensi/fbeffbjdlemaoicjdapfpikkikjoneco - Tells a user how many messages they have. 2733 users.

Scratch Device Plugin Helper - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scratch-device-plugin-hel/clmabinlolakdafkoajkfjjengcdmnpm Enables Hardware extensions on chrome. 45942 Users

FPC Notifier - Notifies users of the next FPC. Download from https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fpc-notifier/idlkmohahmhohogdmdkjfnibkakgkcii . 178 users.

List Followers/Following - Lists your followers/who you are following. Website: https://scratchtools.tk/followers/ and https://scratchtools.tk/following/ - Navigate from https://scratchtools.tk

Random Quote - BBCode - changes a quote every time your signature is reloaded. At https://scratchtools.tk/quote/ or nav from https://scratchtools.tk.

Image Scanner - Scans image into readable format - Website: https://scratchtools.tk/scan/ nav from https://scratchtools.tk.

Scratch User Stats - Scratch User Stats was created by the user World_Languages and is a webpage where users can view statistics for any user on Scratch. The official website is at https://scratchuserstats.blogspot.com/ .

Which ones should we have articles for?


Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 03:20, 11 June 2017 (UTC)00:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Isn't Scratch Device Plugin Helper part of an already-existent article?
But anyway, I don't believe that any of those extensions deserve an article. All of them (except SDPH) are user-generated content, which goes against the Wiki Guidelines. isOnline is currently only being considered because it caused an exceptional stir in the community of users, and so the exceptions in S:NOSP might apply.
On a different note, what happened? I don't think you've ever failed to sign your post like this. You alright?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:26, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Are you implying that him forgetting to sign his post means he is ill or something??
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 02:03, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I understand what you are saying, but IsOnline is also "User Generated Content" - made by users of Scratch. So what makes that important and not the others?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 03:23, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Well I think "user-generated content" refers more to projects made by users. Extensions and such even though they may be made by users can be significant enough for an article. Personally after finally learning about IsOnline I wouldn't mine an article on it.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 03:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I have not seen an article for Scratch Device Plugin Helper, and if it doesn't exist I think it may be worthy of an article due to it's high use in comparison to others. I also believe that there is already a discussion of IsOnline just a little bit up. For the others, I just think that they don't have a large enough impact to really warrant their own article page.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 13:54, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜I know about the discussion above, it is getting a little bit harder to find. So I guess the 3 of us can agree on IO and SDPH?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 14:40, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

@customhacker: Make that 4. @Turkey3: I was saying they normally don't fail to sign their posts like that. Anyway, I'm fine with IO and SDPH but leave the rest without articles.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:49, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Im going to release a poll in the Suggestions Forum if that is ok?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 15:10, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Should I do the whole list, or just the actual extensions?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 15:20, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I just added 2 more to the list.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 15:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
This is the Forum post: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/265779/?page=1#post-2671761
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 16:00, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜A Message from EH7meow:

I would love to have got involved in this discussion on the wiki's CP, but I'm currently in the process of getting my password back. You have my permission to post this under my name at the CP if you want to.

Firstly, I do support the addition of the Scratch Device Plugin Helper, as it was made by the Scratch Team and is thus official. The wiki already has a lot of articles that are only partially related to Scratch, such as Scratch Jr.

Regarding the others, I think it is important to look at what the expectations are of other user-made content before we decide. Certainly, users and projects aren't allowed (with certain exceptions such as Kaj). Collaborations were formerly allowed, but we decided they weren't notable enough, and only left certain special examples in the end.

Mods are allowed though and considering extensions and mods can both be viewed as β€˜add-ons’ they should, I believe, be treated equally. The current criteria for modifications is that they should be β€˜extremely notable’. Unfortunately though, this seems rather hard to define. Perhaps we should investigate the amount of downloads that some of the Scratch modifications on the Wiki received, and guide the definition of β€˜extremely notable’ by that figure. If any of these user-made extensions are worthy though, it definitely sounds as though Scratch Messaging Extension may be with its 2700 downloads, and IsOnlinev2 seems quite widely used too.

Another idea is a criteria like what was suggested here. Any notable add-on would surely have enough information to write a good article about it, and it seems fair that the license should be the same or similar to Scratch's.


EH7meow (talk | contribs)
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 16:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Based off of what people are saying in the topic so far, we may want to add Scratch User Stats to this list. I'm just not sure how much there is to say about it.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 19:36, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Scratch User Stats is the bottom most thing.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 19:38, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I meant the list of articles that people want, not possible ideas. :P
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 19:43, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Im waiting for the vote to come in.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg CΟ…Ζ¨Ρ‚ΟƒΠΌΠ½Ξ±cκΡя ( Ρ‚Ξ±ΚŸΞΊ | cσптяıв ) 20:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
No More discussion is needed

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