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Not done

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Threads that need "long time and hard work" will not be archived, but moved to Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/not done. Actually you can read and continue following threads there:

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MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Contents Is missing some help pages

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There are a few help pages which aren't in Help:Contents, for some reason.
We need to fix that.
Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 14:07, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

+1 It's a contents page, it should have contents to all help pages. If you see a contents page in a book, it tells you where every chapter is.
290Scratcher (talk | contribs) 15:29, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 14:34, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
I think some of the articles in the Help namespace actually don't belong in Help:Contents. They should be linked to from other help pages instead.
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10:51, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Block Lag on Chrome (revived)

No Not done

I was scrolling through Encoding and Decoding Cloud Data recently, and I found that scrolling past scratchblocks is soooo laggy. This reminded me of a now archived discussion mentioning this... so now I want to bring it back up.

Does anyone else (besides Turkey3) have issues with this? It seems to specifically be a Chrome issue.
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05:00, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't, It is definitely a chrome issue, I use Firefox and I'm not experiencing any lag on pages. If you can download another workable browser, that's what I'd recommend. If its a Chrome issue, It'll properly not be resolved.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 06:53, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 10:34, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

A suggestion/question about indentation in replies

On the English wiki, when talking on talk pages, we indent every time, e.g.

User_1 (talk | contribs)

Reply to User_1
User_2 (talk | contribs)
Another reply to User_1
User_3 (talk | contribs)
@User_2: reply to User_2
User_4 (talk | contribs)

However, on the international wikis, we indent whenever we're replying.

User_1 (talk | contribs)

Reply to User_1
User_2 (talk | contribs)
Reply to User_2 after User_3's post but under User_2's post
User_4 (talk | contribs)
Another reply to User_1
User_3 (talk | contribs)

I feel like our system is a lot more straightforward, but the interwikis' system is a lot more organized. What do you think? Should we switch or just stick with our system?
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02:22, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Question has been posted at least once before (don't know where - looking through the archives give me a headache). I believe the consensus was to do whichever you wanted.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:59, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Hm, but doing whatever you want is even more confusing than either of the two, though...
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03:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
This is interesting! :)
I mean, if we switched, it would be confusing because all the older posts are using our regular system.
But I can see how the other system is better for understanding what's happening in the conversation... I actually don't know what my opinion would be on this. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:43, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
FYI, you just implicitly hinted your opinion by sticking with the old system :P
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09:04, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
What about outdenting? It will create problems.
Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 14:09, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Outdenting should happen less frequently with the latter system; it might even just not be needed. On the former system, we have to outdent before the small space breaks formatting.
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14:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────there are a lot of topics that require outdenting even in the new system. also, User:Yzyzyz/Sandbox#proving_my_point.
Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 15:11, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Personally, I think we should stick with the current system. It's a lot more straightforward, and just easier to understand and write in general.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 21:51, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Agreed, I think we should also keep it the way it is as well.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 22:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
@Kenny2scratch 6 posts up — No, I'm just using the old system because that's the system we're using at the moment :P But I wouldn't have had to say "@Kenny2scratch 6 posts up" if we were using the new system... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 13:54, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion: a dedicated page for requests for admin/EW action; idea: subpages for each topic instead of sections

Please respond to each suggestion in its own subsection.

Dedicated page for requests for admin/EW action

I propose that we create Scratch Wiki:Requests for Privileged Actions (WIP title) - basically, if something needs an admin or EW to handle it, post a message there instead of on one of the admin/EW's talks or on the CP.


  • Makes requests for privileged actions more public and easier for all admins/EWs to see.
  • Clears up clutter on admin/EW talk pages as well as the Community Portal.


  • New page.

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13:34, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Any examples of what would required privileged actions that is not covered by a template (such as {{delete}})?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:47, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I do agree with this.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 19:02, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I agree with KrIsMa — and also, if we don't have a template, we could always create a new one, right? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
There actually is a template for protection but no-one uses it - they simply post on an admin's talk.
As for other actions, it's true that tagging pages with {{delete}} guarantees that it'll be deleted sooner or later... good point.
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07:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
+1 with K2S:Templates aren't very useful forediting protected pages or deleting logs, and some. I asked an admin to add ja-interwiki to the News, but he didn't.--
Apple502j (talk | contribs) 12:57, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Support. (PS Apple502j the admins are very busy and can't get to everything on time) I think this page will therefore be a nice addition. How are we going to deal with the templates mentioned then?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:33, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
@Apple502j: interwiki is only done by bureaucrats (i.e. Scratch Team members) on this wiki.
@KrIsMa: I think we can just use both - it's always helpful to have multiple points of contact and if the categories for those templates have a large backlog we can post on that page too, instead of here.
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00:38, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Subpages for each topic

My idea here is: for each new topic, we make a separate subpage. So this topic would not be a topic - it would be Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Dedicated page for privileged action requests; subpages for each topic. Once a discussion is resolved, it will be "closed" by having the page protected. Once it is old enough to be archived, it is archived, by moving the contents to one of the normal archives (which will remain in effect) and either deleting the subpage (might break links) or redirecting it to that section (better).

To summarize the above novel:

  1. A user thinks of something that they want to say to the entire community.
  2. The user creates a subpage of the Community Portal, the title being what would normally be the section title (avoiding slashes).
  3. Other users respond to the topic in that subpage, and a consensus is reached as to how to proceed.
  4. Once the consensus has been implemented, an admin protects the page, preventing further discussion, and thereby closes the topic. Other users can ask (at "requests for privileged action", suggested above, or on an admin's talk) for it to be reopened if they think more discussion is needed.
  5. After a while, any admin can decide that the topic is old enough to be archived (meaning truly locking further discussion and requiring a new topic for revival) and moves the contents of the topic subpage to an archive.

Since a central place for asking questions in general will still be needed, I think, we could create something similar to Wikipedia's "village pump"

  • Organizes discussion immensely - this frees each topic from being in context of another.
  • Requires topics to be more important - it's a waste of space to make a separate page asking "how do you make things bold?".
  • Makes it easier to link to particular CP topics - Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/topic name is a lot less ephemeral of a title than Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#topic name, and also makes it easier to show which topics don't actually exist.
  • Drastically decreases load time.
  • Increases the number of pages drastically.
  • Makes flipping through topics more difficult - you can't scroll through them, you have to navigate to a separate page for each.

I understand this is quite a momentous suggestion - please post your opinion.
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13:34, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Personally, I think it is good the way it is. It may make it more complicated for new users then just making a new topic, and is it really needed to protect the page, because further discussion is good sometimes.
Another thing about the request, is that, it just makes the wiki seem more untidy (in my eyes) and would be annoying to get around. Plus: The users would have to make a new sub page for it, then make it into a talk page, Etc. Excuse me if I missed something here.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 19:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Another pro would be the shorter load time of the CP :P
But..I'm going to have to go with purplewolves — in my opinion it's easier the way it is
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:08, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
That's true, it would make loading time shorter, but as I said, it would get annoying.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 03:59, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
There's a reason I suggested having something similar to Wikipedia's village pump - things that would require easier flipping could be posted there, while momentous things that need separation from each other could go in subpages instead. I know it seems like defeating the purpose of the suggestion, but maybe instead of making a separate page for easy-flipping talk, instead making a separate page for suggestions might work?
Basically, the major point of this is that suggestions need to be distinct and worth suggesting; questions can be simple questions that wouldn't need such distinction.
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07:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Should I create this page?

Should I create a page about advertisement? I mean advertisement as in commenting on a featured project or anywhere else it shouldn't be.
290Scratcher (talk | contribs) 18:57, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

That might be a good idea... Maybe an FAQ page, like Where are the right places to advertise?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:17, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Or a section in Spam?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 19:25, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
I almost forgot!!! I need to add the Yes Done template!
290Scratcher (talk | contribs) 15:48, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

SDS Description?

If you havent noticed, the SDS on the FP of this has no description of it.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 03:11, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I was going to report this but I got lazy :P
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07:22, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes Done by KrIsMa
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14:54, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Page deletion (revived)

Hello! I think this page should be deleted as it is about an SDS studio and none of the other SDS studios have their own articles. I also would like this subpage (from my user page) to be deleted as the redirect is broken.
290Scratcher (talk | contribs) 18:08, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

I deleted the subpage. I moved the other page you were referring here. I agree with you that it is not notable, but I would like to give the community and the creators of the article some time to debate the matter.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:57, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Okay! So I guess this is Yes Done now.
290Scratcher (talk | contribs) 13:23, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Creating Pages for each SDS Studio

See the conversation above this one & debate. :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 18:11, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

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