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MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Some Article Ideas for Everybody

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These are some articles I'm thinking could be created. If anybody wants to give these a shot at making them, feel free! Also, it can be smart to write articles in your sandbox if it's incomplete and then create the article after you finish it in your sandbox. This reduces the number of stub articles in the mainspace.

  • Adobe Flash Player - it's a fairly significant thing that's required for Scratch 2.0, but there is no article on it specifically. This article could provide info on what it is and details specifically on how to get it in different web browsers and operating systems.
  • Computer - We already have some articles on computer science, such as Computer Science and Lag. They are somewhat related to Scratch, and so is a computer. It's the main device used to run Scratch. An article on it is probably a good idea. It can cover basic logistics of computers but it also needs to be linked to Scratch in some way. You could talk about the development of computers coinciding with the progress of Scratch.
  • Yes Done - Defaults Library - Scratch has a built-in Costumes Library and Sprite Library and Sounds Library. I think maybe an article on this would be good.
  • Jobs - the main Scratch website has a Jobs page linked in the footer. As to why I think this deserves an article, we already have an article for the Statistics Page, Privacy Policy, and Terms of Use. I think, though, rather than talking about the Jobs page it could probably talk about Jobs. Scratch is an employer so this could be a good article on that stuff.
  • Yes Stub - Main Menu - It's part of most games, so we should probably have an article on it. What a main menu is and how to create one. Well we do have Creating a Main Menu but if we have an article on that an article on main menus in general is a good idea. You could even go outside of Scratch a bit and talk about main menus in NES games and such.
  • Removing a Character from a String - fairly self-explanatory.
  • Yes Done - Replicating a Multidimensional List - lists are 1D in Scratch. Just a list of items. In other programming languages you have multidimensional Arrays, so rather than have a list of say items 1-5, you may a have a list of items 1-5 but each of those items has a list inside of it. That'd be a 2D list. So basically you have lists inside of lists.
There are ways to "replicate" a multidimensional list with a 1D list. For example, if you want a list of 5 items and inside each item you want a list of 3 items, you can just pretend that the first 3 items in the list belong to the list items of the 1st highest dimension item in the list. I hope that makes sense. Like every 3 items it becomes a new item in a sense.
Then you can think outside of the box some. What if you don't want the same number of items in a list inside of an item? Well it requires some more complex logic then.
I also noticed the article Array does cover this some. But I think it would be possible to have a standalone article that goes way more in-depth.
  • Saving a Project - An article on how to save a Scratch project. Whether it be saved online or how to download it to your computer and save it there. It should be documented.
  • Sound Recorder - An article on how to connect a mic to Scratch and record sound in the Sound Editor. It's not really documented now. Currently we do have the article Sound Recorder which documents a Scratch 1.4 feature. This could be moved to Sound Recorder (1.4) and then a new article Sound Recorder can be made to document recording in Scratch 2.0.


Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 22:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

We came to the point that computer isn't relevant to Scratch.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits) 06:57, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm making the multidimensional list one in my sandbox now.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:09, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Done! I've put it at Multidimensional Arrays, but feel free to move it if you have a better title.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:09, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Nice!!
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 00:29, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! :D I am actually making a project that implements this on my testing account, so this article was more familiar to me to make.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:54, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── By the way, there is a section of one article that talks about the jobs available (Scratch Team#Jobs), although I agree it's a bit brief. I suggest we expand that section instead of making an article about it and have Jobs redirect to that section.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:13, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

I'll create the Main Menu page really quick. It'll be basic, and won't have too much stuff (I'm not the best with wiki markup), but luckily you guys can edit it later. I'll just make a few description points and stuff like that.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 22:47, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
I finished creating the Main Menu page. Wow, it was annoying trying to find a category, realizing I don't know what category to fit it into, creating a new category, creating a new category page, and then having to find a category for THAT page. I've marked it as a stub, though; it's not too complete, but it's still there.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 23:36, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Scratch Extensions

I have compiled a list of Scratch Extensions I believe dont have an article, and some are up for debate. Any numbers at the time of this posting are from the extension download site (The Chrome Web Store), and not the extensions' site, at the time this was posted. I do not endorse or say that any of these are safe:

IsOnline v2 - https://scratchtools.tk/isonline/ and https://aremyfriends.online/ - Display on a users' profile whether they are currently active on Scratch. Download site can be accessed at ison.ga and isonline.tk - which redirect to https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/isonline/pabjccjpgemijhffgnaamebfbcnalghj. 923 Users.

Scratch Messaging Extension - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scratch-messaging-extensi/fbeffbjdlemaoicjdapfpikkikjoneco - Tells a user how many messages they have. 2733 users.

Scratch Device Plugin Helper - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scratch-device-plugin-hel/clmabinlolakdafkoajkfjjengcdmnpm Enables Hardware extensions on chrome. 45942 Users

FPC Notifier - Notifies users of the next FPC. Download from https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fpc-notifier/idlkmohahmhohogdmdkjfnibkakgkcii . 178 users.

List Followers/Following - Lists your followers/who you are following. Website: https://scratchtools.tk/followers/ and https://scratchtools.tk/following/ - Navigate from https://scratchtools.tk

Random Quote - BBCode - changes a quote every time your signature is reloaded. At https://scratchtools.tk/quote/ or nav from https://scratchtools.tk.

Image Scanner - Scans image into readable format - Website: https://scratchtools.tk/scan/ nav from https://scratchtools.tk.

Scratch User Stats - Scratch User Stats was created by the user World_Languages and is a webpage where users can view statistics for any user on Scratch. The official website is at https://scratchuserstats.blogspot.com/ .

Which ones should we have articles for?


Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 03:20, 11 June 2017 (UTC)00:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Isn't Scratch Device Plugin Helper part of an already-existent article?
But anyway, I don't believe that any of those extensions deserve an article. All of them (except SDPH) are user-generated content, which goes against the Wiki Guidelines. isOnline is currently only being considered because it caused an exceptional stir in the community of users, and so the exceptions in S:NOSP might apply.
On a different note, what happened? I don't think you've ever failed to sign your post like this. You alright?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:26, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Are you implying that him forgetting to sign his post means he is ill or something??
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 02:03, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I understand what you are saying, but IsOnline is also "User Generated Content" - made by users of Scratch. So what makes that important and not the others?
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 03:23, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Well I think "user-generated content" refers more to projects made by users. Extensions and such even though they may be made by users can be significant enough for an article. Personally after finally learning about IsOnline I wouldn't mine an article on it.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 03:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I have not seen an article for Scratch Device Plugin Helper, and if it doesn't exist I think it may be worthy of an article due to it's high use in comparison to others. I also believe that there is already a discussion of IsOnline just a little bit up. For the others, I just think that they don't have a large enough impact to really warrant their own article page.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 13:54, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I know about the discussion above, it is getting a little bit harder to find. So I guess the 3 of us can agree on IO and SDPH?
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 14:40, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

@customhacker: Make that 4. @Turkey3: I was saying they normally don't fail to sign their posts like that. Anyway, I'm fine with IO and SDPH but leave the rest without articles.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:49, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Im going to release a poll in the Suggestions Forum if that is ok?
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 15:10, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Should I do the whole list, or just the actual extensions?
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 15:20, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I just added 2 more to the list.
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 15:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
This is the Forum post: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/265779/?page=1#post-2671761
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 16:00, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────A Message from EH7meow:

I would love to have got involved in this discussion on the wiki's CP, but I'm currently in the process of getting my password back. You have my permission to post this under my name at the CP if you want to.

Firstly, I do support the addition of the Scratch Device Plugin Helper, as it was made by the Scratch Team and is thus official. The wiki already has a lot of articles that are only partially related to Scratch, such as Scratch Jr.

Regarding the others, I think it is important to look at what the expectations are of other user-made content before we decide. Certainly, users and projects aren't allowed (with certain exceptions such as Kaj). Collaborations were formerly allowed, but we decided they weren't notable enough, and only left certain special examples in the end.

Mods are allowed though and considering extensions and mods can both be viewed as ‘add-ons’ they should, I believe, be treated equally. The current criteria for modifications is that they should be ‘extremely notable’. Unfortunately though, this seems rather hard to define. Perhaps we should investigate the amount of downloads that some of the Scratch modifications on the Wiki received, and guide the definition of ‘extremely notable’ by that figure. If any of these user-made extensions are worthy though, it definitely sounds as though Scratch Messaging Extension may be with its 2700 downloads, and IsOnlinev2 seems quite widely used too.

Another idea is a criteria like what was suggested here. Any notable add-on would surely have enough information to write a good article about it, and it seems fair that the license should be the same or similar to Scratch's.


EH7meow (talk | contribs)
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 16:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Based off of what people are saying in the topic so far, we may want to add Scratch User Stats to this list. I'm just not sure how much there is to say about it.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 19:36, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Scratch User Stats is the bottom most thing.
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 19:38, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I meant the list of articles that people want, not possible ideas. :P
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 19:43, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Im waiting for the vote to come in.
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
No More discussion is needed

A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All

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One of the complexities of documenting Scratch is it changes so much. When Scratch transitioned from 1.4 to 2.0 there was an unbelievable amount of work on the Wiki that required tons of articles to be updated. This reached the solution of keeping articles relating to Scratch 1.4 but denoting them by putting "(1.4)" in the title of the article. For example, the older version of Paint Editor is Paint Editor (1.4). Another example is Project Compression (1.4) which is the old version of Project Compression.

I think we need to set in place some standards. In the future, we are going to have to do this for Scratch 3.0, so it's better if it can be done consistently. Firs thing to discuss is:

Past or Present Tense - I have noticed it is not always consistent. For example, Scratch Forums (1.4) discusses the forums in past tense. Paint Editor (1.4) uses the present tense, though that may make more sense since you can still use Scratch 1.4 while the Scratch forums are nonexistent. However, an article like Project Downloading (1.4) talks in the present tense even though project downloading on the Scratch 1.4 site is not possible since that old version of the site does not exist.

So I wonder, for an article that documents a feature in an old version of Scratch that is still accessible like the 1.4 Paint Editor, should it be: past or present tense?

For an article that documents a feature in an old version of Scratch that is impossible to access and there solely for history, should it be: past or present tense?

In the latter case of an article that documents an unavailable feature just for history, if present tense is used it sort of gives off the feel that that is how the article would be read if you were to be reading it in 2010 or whenever. This may make sense if we want our articles to sort of be like a frozen time capsule of the past. But if past tense is used, that could also make more sense because it's not 2010 but 2017.

Block Pages - This brings up another issue, and it has to do with block pages. An example of this is Distance to () (block). Please note that there is no Distance to () (block) (1.4) page on the Wiki, and that is so because this block is available in both Scratch 1.4 and 2.0, so we believed it was not necessary to document the same block in a prior version of Scratch. I'm starting to think, though, it might be a good idea.

Take a look at the script on that page. It uses the if <> then block as well as the stop [all v] block. Both these blocks are sort of in Scratch 1.4, but "if ()" then was just "if ()" and "stop [all v]" was just "stop all". So if somebody is using Scratch 1.4 and looks up the documentation of this block on the Wiki, the scripts in the article may use blocks not available in 1.4. There are probably more examples of block pages on the Wiki that use blocks not in Scratch 1.4, probably more dire examples than mine above.

It's just something to think about. How do we want to make our Wiki consistent throughout history to avoid any possible confusion? Do block articles deserve a (1.4) version or not? Eventually we are going to have (2.0) articles. It's best to decide stuff like this at the present moment.

If Block - I just noticed there happens to be no article on it. Technically "if () then" is only in 2.0, so shouldn't "if () (block) (1.4)" be an article?

Titles of Articles on items not in 2.0 - Examples of what I am talking about are the articles Stop All (block) as well as Java Player. The titles of these articles do not have (1.4) in the title because, well, they are not available in Scratch 2.0! So, I'm going to ask you guys, do you think by not having (1.4) in the title, it can be misleading, making people think it's a feature still available?

It does say at the top, "This article or section documents a feature not included in the current version of Scratch (2.0). It is only useful from a historical perspective" so I do not believe anybody reading the article is going to be confused and think the Java Player still exists. But do you think it should or should not have "(1.4)" in the title, or should "(1.4)" only be in the title of articles on features that have been replaced in Scratch 2.0?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 22:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Turkey3 at it again with the great writing! I intend to move some things (leaving redirects, ofc) once I have time.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:38, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Firstly, I think that this is a very important topic. It's important to get this right, or, like you say, things could get more messy and complicated.
So, here are my views:
I agree that past tense should be used when something is no longer accessible, it's odd to say 'you can' if you can't anymore. Similarly, I support using present tense on still accessible but outdated features because you still 'can'.
I don't think we should make 1.4 versions of articles for blocks that are unchanged on both versions. Examples are only examples, so I don't believe it's worth duplicating a page for them. That being said, it should be good practice to make examples as 1.4/2.0-friendly as possible.
I also agree with making a 'if () (block) (1.4)' article as the change between versions could be a cause for confusion, and this article could help clear up that confusion.
I believe that the version number used on an article on an outdated feature should be the last version it was available in, making it clear that it is no longer used.
Furthermore, a feature on the current version should have no version number in my opinion, as this causes lots of moving when Scratch updates and also makes it appear to be historic, as the version number looks like it's denoting a secondary, or outdated version of something.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 18:52, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
So with that said do you believe the title should be "Java Player" or "Java Player (1.4)"?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 19:04, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I support Java Player (1.4) and Stop All (block) (1.4) and at this moment I also support Flash Player and Stop () (block). However, when Scratch 3.0 comes, I believe that Flash Player should become Flash Player (2.0) and there should be a new article titled HTML5 Player.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 19:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

CP Summaries

I started this little thing in my userspace which takes the most important things from each archive and links them into one page for future reference. Obviously, I cant do almost 90 pages, so I need your guys' help. You dont need to sign up for anything, just start editing the page.

When starting a new section, please start with the higher numbers, that way we get the modern stuff in first.

This will take a bit of time, but I hope I get people still interested later on, because as each new archive comes, links will have to be changed, etc.

If you want to claim something is important than you can discuss that here.

If you want to claim an archive to do, do so here.

Again, I am looking for dedicated Scratchers to help me complete this, so please, if you are interested, sign up.

I look forward to seeing how this page turns out!
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:07, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I believe that we aren't allowed to edit that even with your permission due to userspace rules. Maybe we should have a subpage of the Community Portal dedicated to it.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 20:48, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
In general, although there are no technical restrictions to prevent this, editing pages that belong to another user is not allowed. There are only a few exceptions, which include:
  • Removing content that obviously violates Community Guidelines
  • Editing pages where the owner has given you permission to edit


Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:52, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I see. I was just unsure.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 20:59, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
"because as each new archive comes, links will have to be changed" I don't really think so, if the newest sections are at the bottom (assuming one section as a summary of each archive) then just do "Add Topic" when a new archive is made.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:42, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Is anyone interested? No This while take a while to do
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 23:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

New Types of How-To Articles

EH7meow and I have been discussing adding new types of community-oriented articles onto the wiki. Here is how he described it "I agree it's not a conventional Wiki article, but it's not too dissimilar to the already existing tutorials which, while being about blocks and programming, are still a person's view on how to do something. What I'd love is if there was the main-space for articles, and a tutorial-space for tutorials/guides etc. :)". I am posting this b/c he himself is currently in the process of regaining his wiki account. Anyhow, I believe that we should try and add some new articles to cover all the aspects of the scratch experience. This would include but not be limited to planning projects before the programming process, publishing projects, and increasing community-oriented guides. While these would probably be more opinionated, they would also be valuable sources of information for Scratchers. With that, I'll open up the floor for discussion. ;)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 20:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

I think that'd be interesting if they were part of a Tutorial namespace. Because like you said, things like How to Make a Basic Platformer is just one perspective on it, and why does that, for instance, deserve a tutorial over some other things? Interesting idea indeed. Only thing is, the Wiki is more supposed to be for documenting Scratch. But that also draws into question if our current tutorial articles are really a documentation, because it's more of a how-to, which leads me in circles, so good point.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 20:40, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Right. But some of those I believe are current Forum Stickys, and I thought that we are not allowed to bring those on the wiki.
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:53, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
We would not be bringing stickies on the wiki, verbatum, but instead draw inspiration from the topics which they present. Seeing how they are temporary anyway, it would be useful to create wiki articles addressing those topics.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:49, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Ah. I see your point. Though I just feel like "Coming up with your Idea" isnt exactly a how-to - I think that would deserve a different name - I like the idea!
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:34, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
(Sorry, Customhacker, I fixed your indent a little bit up there.) I feel as though it's a good idea to bring some guides onto the wiki that aren't actual step-by-step, but it's more of a "suggestion" sort of thing. I'm just wondering where we'd put it.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 22:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── So if I've gotten this right, you're suggesting we add a Tutorial namespace to the Wiki and move all the current tutorial and how-to articles into it? Then we could also make articles based off of forum guides and put those in this namespace too? If that's what you're suggesting, then wonderful! I fully support this and I do think it would be really handy.

My only issue with this is that for every tutorial article, we would have to have a mainspace redirect to the tutorialspace. If you search for "How to Make a Platform Game" but there's an article on that with the title "Tutorial:How to Make a Platform Game" then the former would have to be a redirect to the latter. So we would essentially be making two pages for every tutorial page: a mainspace redirect and the tutorialspace article. Thoughts?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:15, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

That same thought struck me (2 pages per tutorial) but I was just too lazy to type it at the time so thanks for doing my mind work for me!
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 06:04, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
No problem ;)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:09, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
So far, it seems that we're all in agreement that these articles would be a benefit to the Wiki, at least as much as the existing tutorials are.
The big challenge seems to be how we implement the articles so that they are easy to access. As you've mentioned, putting them in a space of their own means that they can't be searched unless you use redirects, which defeats the point of putting them in their own space.
That being said, the challenge with all tutorial articles is that their titles are very hard to search as you can never be sure what the title will be. I wonder if a good solution would be to have a landing page that will guide you to the correct article (as is already done on Frequently Asked Questions).
I'm thinking that perhaps the different 'spaces' would actually be a lot of work for not necessarily much gain. I'd support the addition of these new articles to the Wiki, so long as they are distinguished from others with the 'How To Pages' category, making it clear that they are not standard wiki content and can thus be more POV. With the increasing number of tutorials we would then have, I believe a landing page would also be useful.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 17:25, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
That should be the purpose of the Tutorial's section on the home page, though. To lead to basically all of our tutorials so they don't have to guess our exact wording in the Search bar.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 19:15, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Oops, I forgot we had that page. :P In that case, my position is that I think these articles should become tutorials like the other scripting-based ones, and a new section should be given to them on the tutorials section.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 19:23, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I also support this change. This seems like the most logical solution :).
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:15, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Voting opens TONIGHT

Voting in the EW election will open tonight at midnight UTC (8PM Scratch Time). All Wiki users are encouraged to vote in the election. Speeches and a link to vote are available on the election page.

Good luck to all candidates!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:04, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Great! I already know who I'm voting for. :)
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 19:32, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Good Luck everyone! :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:15, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Good luck to everyone! By the way, this is my first time voting with jvvg's system and it is sweeeeeet :D
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23:28, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Voting is now open! Please vote, it takes only a moment. :)
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Also, voting closes on June 26 at midnight UTC (June 25 at 8PM Scratch Time).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:25, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Darn, I just realized I'm unable to vote due to my account being created too recently. :(
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 01:38, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── There appears to be an issue with the page where it's not displaying properly for those on Firefox. If that happens to you, please use Chrome. I'm going to try to fix this tomorrow, but in the meantime it does work on other browsers.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:25, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Now that I've voted, I really like the system! I noticed that it automatically placed me last and disabled options that would do otherwise - very good! Is a reset link really necessary though? Still, that system looks sweeeeeet!
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02:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
On a fun side note, there have been 46 votes! This is already a lot higher turn out then the previous election.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Wow!
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 00:34, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh Yeah! Good Luck to all!
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 00:39, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
The reason I put in the reset button was mainly for testing. To see how it handled multiple votes, I voted both as jvvg and WM (only when testing, in the real election I only voted as jvvg). With the reset button I didn't have to manually delete the cookies.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:27, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
@jvvg Ah, I see. @ErnieParke Wow! (I really can't wait for the results :D) How do you know?
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02:49, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Just voted!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 14:58, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Well I voted yesterday but still :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 14:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I've voted as well. The results should be quite interesting :D
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:17, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
@jvvg What is the minimum amount of time since account creation needed to be able to vote? I'm afraid I'm unable to.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 02:15, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Your account has to have been created before nominations opened, which was on June 6th, I think.
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03:08, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh, that's too bad WolfCat67! :( Well, you'll probably be able to vote, or even run in the next election, but I can't say when that will be, and probably won't be that soon. I wish you could vote!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 16:48, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
@ErnieParke Wow, that seems like a lot! I can't wait to see how many people have voted once the election is over! :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 16:50, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Just a quick update: we are now up to 57 votes!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:38, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

O_____O
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23:27, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
@jvvg Whoa, that's a whole lot of votes!
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 23:29, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

New FPC

-Galaxydust- will become FPC later today.
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05:46, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Really? Nice! That reminds me, I really need to start work on that FPC application... LOL‎
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 14:38, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Now -Galaxydust- is the FPC.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 14:57, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, and still no news update. EWs? Admins?
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23:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes Done
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:41, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Uncategorised files?

What happened to all the Uncategorised Files? Yesterday I checked and there were quite a few. Today, I went to try to categories some and found an empty page. What happened?

Also, I see that the CP has been archived.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 20:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

All of the files were images/icons for peoples' user pages, so I just categorised them all in Category:Users' Images. :)
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 20:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh I see that now looking at recent changes. :P
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 20:59, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I thought that discussion was done. If you want it can be brought back.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 21:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
No. The other one was about Unused files, but this is about the uncategorised files.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 16:23, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
What was the title of that conversation?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 16:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Just Unused Files. Why?
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 00:23, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Do you want it brought back?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 00:42, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
No. This has nothing to do with the other topic.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 14:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, does EH7meow's answer make this done?
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 01:54, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yeah, if they're user images categorizing them as so is most logical.
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About Block Plugin

This article is outdated. There is a new version of the plugin, scratchblocks3, but this covers scratchblocks2. We need to update it, and we need to do so quickly. Back before I became a Wiki editor, I referred to that article to try to make my own cool block ideas in the scratchblocks testing topic. Specifically, C blocks. However, cstart, celse, and cend don't exist anymore; they've been replaced by {} syntax. Take a look:

<scratchblocks>
when <this happens> :: cstart
  do this
otherwise when <this happens> :: celse
  do this
then we're done :: cend
</scratchblocks>

makes

when <this happens> :: cstart
  do this
otherwise when <this happens> :: celse
  do this
then we're done :: cend

but this:

<scratchblocks>
when <this happens> {
  do this
} otherwise when <this happens> {
  do this
} then we're done
</scratchblocks>

makes

when <this happens> {
  do this
} otherwise when <this happens> {
  do this
} then we're done

This article needs to be updated, but there was one question I asked on its talk page, that actually relates to Turkey3's topic above: Should the current version of the article be moved somewhere else, with this article getting the new content? Or should the new content go in a new article, and have the current one link to it?
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03:33, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

So is scratchblocks3 meant for Scratch 3.0?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 03:38, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
No, scratchblocks3 is the version of the plugin currently in use. However, that article documents scratchblocks2.
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03:41, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
That explains why I couldnt make c-blocks XD. Yeah, someone needs to update that.
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 18:02, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I think we should update the page, but add a section for scratchblocks2 due to their similarity.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 22:41, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
So like a section called "Old Syntax" or something? It would have {{outdated}} on it, of course.
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04:31, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, but I think we should wait for more people to give their opinion.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 20:46, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Adding a History section seems best to me.
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Templates?

How do I create my own template?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 14:50, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

You mean a template in your userspace? Just make a page under your name like I have done at User:Bigpuppy/Welcome_Template, then you can make it show what's there by using {{User:Your Username/The Name of your Page}}. For example, I can make this happen:
Bigpuppy Logo.png

Welcome!
Hi there! Welcome to the Scratch wiki, Community_Portal! My name is bigpuppy. If you have any questions or would just like to chat, feel free to leave a comment on my talk page. Have fun editing, and I hope to see you soon!

by doing {{User:Bigpuppy/Welcome_Template}} . Hope I helped!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 15:11, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Ah, thank you! Another thing, how do I actually make the code for it? I'm not good with HTML. :P
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 16:22, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, you could go to my welcome template's page, click edit, then look at the code, (but make sure not to save! :P), then make one of your own based on mine. Some others you could look at are Customhacker's welcome template, Kenny2scratch's welcome template, and the official Scratch Wiki welcome template. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 16:37, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, and then if you want to be slightly more advanced, you can use the Magic Words to make it more personalized. My code is actually based of the Welcome template. Kenny2scratch's is cool too - I have not seen the code for it. If you need help, you can ask anyone of us.
Customhacker Logo.png Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 16:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, you can use {{ROOTPAGENAME}} to display the name of the user that you are posting your template on. An example is my welcome template up there. As you can see, it found the name "Community Portal" automatically. It's actually really cool. I love templates. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 16:54, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I see. Thank you!
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 17:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I believe this is Yes Done
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 17:42, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────but you can correct me if I'm wrong. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 17:43, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

No, you are correct.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 18:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm a bit late to this discussion, but... @customhacker: thanks! You can, of course, feel free to take a look at the code. @bigpuppy and @Drunken_Sailor: I actually used {{ROOTPAGENAMEE}}. That makes sure that underscores remain underscores in the username, instead of being spaces like MediaWiki makes them.
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04:25, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh, really? That's cool. I'll change mine to {{ROOTPAGENAMEE}} then. Thanks!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy (talk | contribs | scratch profile ) 14:39, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
No problem. I only realized it should have been ROOTPAGENAMEE when I used my template on Drunken_Sailor's talk :P
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23:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

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