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Scratch Wiki:Terms of Service

I don't know if anybody else looked, but Special:RequestAccount has a red link.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 01:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I agree, we should either remove the link from the plugin or create the page Scratch Wiki:Terms of Service.
Bsteward (talk | contribs) 12:39, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Here, I created a very basic one that we can use for now.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:07, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Added Interwiki!

Our wiki can now connect with the DACH wiki! Here's the first article with an Interwiki link: X_Position_(block) To add an interwiki link, use this syntax: [[de:<Exact title of article on DACH wiki>]] and the "languages" menu will appear when you save the changes. Thanks to MartinWollenweber and everyone else who works on the DACH wiki for your hard work and patience!
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 21:54, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Maybe tomorrow I'll work on adding interwiki links
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:00, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Finally!
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:30, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Great! Thank you very much! I already put some Interwiki-Links in here:
We also mentioned the new Interwiki-feature at our german community portal here:
http://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal#das_englische_Scratch-Wiki_hat_jetzt_Interwiki
You can help, even if you don't speak german: Have a look at this category in the DACH-Wiki: http://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Kategorie:En-Link . Each article that is inside that category, has already a link to it's coresponding english article, in most cases in the "so called"-Servicekasten (=Servicebox) at the end of the german article. We work to change that to real Interwiki-Design as soon as possibel: We hope in a few weeks we can also switch the DACH-Wiki to the new skin to have the same look like the english Wiki(we are already testing, see http://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Hauptseite?useskin=scratchwikiskin).
P.S. the other feature in the "Servicekasten" is an automated generation of "copy&paste"-ready-BBCode for putting a link to exact that article in the forum: So it's very easy to put links to our Wiki in the german forum. Perhaps that technique could also be usefull in the english wiki/forum?
German explanation here: http://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Einf%C3%BCgen_eines_Scratch-Dach-Wiki-Links_ins_Forum

MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 20:36, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I've gotten quite a start! :P I don't know German, but I can usually tell which articles are which by looking at the pictures. :P
About the BBCode thing at the bottom, on the English Scratch website, we can use [wiki]PAGE NAME[/wiki] or [wiki=PAGE NAME]text[/wiki] now. Cool, huh?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:15, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
[wiki]PAGE NAME[/wiki] is realy cool. I didn't know that before, but naturally it only works for the english wiki.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 22:33, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
@Mathfreak231: You did a great work with your Interwiki-Linking here: Contribution of Mathfreak231 in July 2013. Thank you very much!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 08:02, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Does anybody know, how you can search for all articles that already have an Interwiki-Link like [[de:<Exact title of article on DACH wiki>]] ? In the DACH-Wiki we use the template http://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Vorlage:En that also includes a category, so we can see all linked articles at http://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Kategorie:En-Link , but how does this work with the [[de:]-thing? If you know, please copy the url for that search here.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 06:29, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I couldn't find a way to find pages that have the tag, but I found a special page that lists pages that don't.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:34, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
That's even better, because we see all our ToDo's when seting limit=1000. That's actually 708 (as of 13.7.2013) articles without Interwiki-Link of 1,119 existing articles, so we linked 107 until now, that's a start! But I think we'll get some help, e.g. LiFaytheGoblin is also on both Wikis and has also just started to set Interwiki-Links.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Should we create redirects? Like if I search for Hauptseite here it would redirect to either Main Page or it would be a soft redirect meaning a redirect that links to another website. So, it would go to a page and the page would say Hauptseite.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 14:57, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't think so.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 17:27, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Me too, see English Soft Redirects in the CP of DACH-Scratch-Wiki.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

What do we do if there's an English wiki article and two German articles which cover the same topic? For example, if I have one English article about two things which are in two separate articles in the German wiki. Also, if there are two English articles which cover one German article do we link to the German article in both of the English articles?
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 10:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

In the first case, pick the more relevant one. Do you have a specific one you wanted to know about? In the second, yes.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:00, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I did have one I wanted to know about but the two articles (I think) got merged so it's ok now.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 11:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Great, our Intwerwiki-ToDo-List is already down to 577, that means > 250 Interwiki-Links in the first few days.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Needs Updated to Scratch 2.0 Template

I still see many articles that are on Scratch 1.4. Maybe we should have a template for articles that still need updated to Scratch 2.0? That way they'd all be categorized also and would be more organized. Or is there already one?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 22:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

There's a list of articles that need updating.
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 07:20, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking just a general "needs updating" template for readers to see to let them know about out-of-date info. Not every person who visits the wiki knows about your user subpage. :P
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:18, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. This is a great idea for a template, and it doesn't even have to be specifically updated to 2.0. It can just be needs updated in general. Shall I do the honors and create it? Or someone else
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 04:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
How does this look? I made it because I had Mathfreak's somewhat word.
Archive.png
The subject of this article or section has changed dramatically and requires updating. Please keep in mind that some of the information or images may not be accurate or relevant to the current version of Scratch, the Scratch website, or the article subject. (Date?)


Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 04:32, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I think it should be titled "Needs Updating"... "Needs Updated" is improper grammar.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 05:44, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Titles don't need good grammar... The point of titling a template is to make it short, concise, and easy to type, but it should still describe what it is.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:17, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Erm... yes they do. Especially if the text will be appearing on the template itself.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 17:01, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, I can't change the title, but I'll change the text to "needs updating" in the box. Also, on Template:Outdated, I tried to make every page with this template add to the page "Articles that Need Updated", but they won't add. Can someone more experienced do this? On the pages where I have this template, it shows that it is in the category "Articles that Need Updated" at the bottom, but when I click on the page the article isn't there. See Project Tags to know what I'm talking about. Also, maybe we could change the name of the template to just "Outdated". I kind of like that better. Anyone else?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 19:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Check those pages again.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:17, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Awesome, except the pages with {{Outdated}} don't automatically categorize on the page "Category:Outdated Articles".
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 19:42, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Fixed. The template was acting up before when I tried the correct code, so I tried a workaround. Now it's back to the correct code.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:46, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

New Curator

Yes Done

7734f is our new curator. I think the news needs updated to say this.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 11:34, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

They've ben cur for a while, you'd think one would update the news. See? This is why "Experienced Wikians" need to be able to at least EDIT protected pages... :P
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I really thought i did that...
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:55, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
It's still not done. I cleared my cache.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Look on the front page; I see it. You may need to add ?action=purge to the end of your URL to purge the wiki's local cache.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 15:27, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh, my bad. It's done for Scratch Wiki Home/News, and Yes Done for Scratch Wiki:Current Events.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 14:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

How do you feel about changing the name of the Main Page to Scratch Wiki Home?

I see in the Main Page history, its name was changed from Scratch Wiki to Main Page back in 2011: "We have (unanimously) decided to change the main page of the Scratch Wiki from Scratch Wiki to Main Page." Does anyone remember the reasons for that decision? We were thinking that it might be more clear for users of the wiki (especially non-editors who come here to look for information) if it were named "Scratch Wiki Home." Any opinions?
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 14:55, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I like that name.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 18:09, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone feel strongly about this issue? Otherwise, I'll change the name this afternoon.
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 14:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 8#Changing the Scratch Wiki page to Main Page and Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 36#Main Page. I don't really mind, as long as we keep redirects.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

A few questions about account approval

1. Should we allow alt accounts? - I have not made a decision on this request because it is an alt account (it says so in the request details). Should I accept it or just say to use the original account?

2. Should we leave comments when we reject requests? - Currently, when I reject a request, I leave a note on the user's profile saying that their request has not been accepted and explaining why. For an example, look at the comments on the profile of one of the users I have rejected (list is here).

3. Should we use the exact same wording in the comment every time we approve an account? I currently say "Your Scratch Wiki account request has been accepted! You may log in at http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Special:UserLogin with the details your provided when submitting the account request." Should we make a standard for that, or just have each approver use their own?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 13:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

1. There's no point in doing so. The alt will have the same rights as the original account. That would just be adding extra user pages to this wiki.
2. I think we should. I can just imagine a user waiting months not checking to see if their account was approved and never hearing about it.
3. I think only one version of the approval comment is needed. If we don't, then there might be info left out. You can alter it a little, but keep all the same info.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 13:48, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
1. Ok. I'll reject the request, then.
2. Good point. I'll keep leaving the comments.
3. I have made a list of the comments I use at User:Jvvg/Authentication/Messages. If a bunch of people agree that they should become standard, they can be moved to a help page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:00, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
1: Use the original account, i think.
2: Yes.
3: Maybe. I think the one i use is better. "Hi [whoever]. Your account on the Scratch Wiki has been approved. You can log in with your username and chosen wiki password at http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Special:UserLogin Would you please take the time to read the following introductory pages: http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Scratch_Wiki:Welcome http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Scratch_Wiki:Guidelines http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Scratch_Wiki:Frequently_Asked_Questions Have fun! :D If anything about the process is unclear, just ask me for help."
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
1) Maybe. I don't know what it'd be for, but the Scratch Team likes to do it for some reason...
2) Makes sense. I forgot to do it a couple of times...
3) Yeah, it should be altered a little by user approving the account, but should have the same basic info. Mine is a slight remix of scimonster's.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 19:31, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Scratch Team alt accounts are for seeing the wiki from the point of view as a normal user.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 22:28, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Yup, we make alt accounts to see the wiki as a normal user and also to test the account application process. I agree that it wouldn't make sense for most users to have alt accounts. Except, I'm thinking that maybe we should allow this one after all, since he's lost access to his old account. Any objections?
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 14:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
In that case, I say we let the account me created.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 15:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to echo Curiouscrab here. If they've lost their old account, then I think that they should get the go ahead with a new wiki account.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:44, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

P110 is our new curator

Yes Done

P110 is our new curator, I think the news needs updated to reflect this.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 18:36, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Please improve our new terms of service

Yes Done

Since the registration page links to Scratch Wiki:Terms of Service, I decided that the page should be created. If there is any other page with Wiki rules, please change the article to redirect to that. If not, then please add any Wiki-specific rules you can think of.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:08, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

What about S:GUIDES? :P
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:19, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
I added the redirect.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:22, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 29/ in Progress?

Yes Done

According to Category:Articles in Progress Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 29/ is undergoing major changes and has been categorized.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:19, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I see why! That's the archive when the Articles in Porgress category was made. Someone had included a sample of the template, and so it's being considered as under progress. Now, how could this be fixed without removing the template? Ideas?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:33, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
We could change the template on that archive so it says |cat=no in it since that's how we always stop categories.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 03:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Fixed.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 03:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Use Names of Developers in Scratch Jr. article?

I just updated the Scratch Jr. article, but I was wondering if I'm allowed to post the list of real names of the developers on there? It's on the Scratch Jr. website, so could it go on here?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 21:01, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, use real names, not usernames.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:20, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
I agree with you halfway Curiouscrab, but I think both names should be used, similar to how it's done in the ST article.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:11, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
I disagree, I think the real names should be used but make the names link to that page so that users know what their username is but also think the article looks professional. Scratch Jr. isn't really associated with Scratch so the username wouldn't make sense. Before you say "but Scratch is in the name, it must be associated" I would like to point out this is a project for college students and Scratch Jr. is a separate project on a separate web page.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:17, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
I think we all have confusion. I don't, or anyone, really, in fact, even know what their usernames are, or if they even have a Scratch account. I was just wondering if we'd need their permission to post their real names, or if we can just go ahead with it. Scratch Jr. Is mainly developed by Tufts University, with help from the Lifelong Kintergarten Group, and I haven't the slightest clue of any Scratch usernames.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 04:04, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh yes, I had forgotten that most of them wouldn't even have accounts, and that if a few developers did have accounts, that we wouldn't even know which they had. Well then, only using their real names sounds fine.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:19, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Use real names.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 04:15, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Way to contribute to the conversation. :P
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 02:19, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Categorize Scratch Wiki Home

Yes Done

^
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:12, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean?
7734f (talk | contribs) 20:29, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Put it in category Category:Main Pages.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:18, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
It was categorized by Sci.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:19, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

New Curator 2

Yes Done

lunaluvgood is the new curator. Someone needs to update the news.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:25, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Template idea

Yes Done

User:Mathfreak231/TranscribeBlocks. Whaddya think?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

You used my blocks image :) I always liked that one. Anyways, I think the blocks image could have a border around it, or copy the image as a new file and make the background the grey that is in the template. Also, maybe add more text such as "to copy the scratchblocks code, view the page source (which will be a link to this page's source) and copy/paste the desired script. The <scratchblocks> tags must be converted to BCCode on the forums as [scratchblocks]."
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 22:19, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Looks pretty good. I'd like to suggest a change to the wording though: "This article or section has images that can be transcribed into ScratchBlocks code. To copy the ScratchBlocks code, view the page source."
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 13:10, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
@Turkey3: 1. Or make the background transparent, which Sci is trying to already let me do :P 2. The page's source doesn't say what scratchblocks to use. We're not trying to copy the image over to the forums, we're turning images into scratchblocks code, such as on this page. Just look at the history.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 23:57, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Maybe "compile" is a better word?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:44, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
I took a few suggestions and created the template at Template:TranscribeBlocks.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 23:11, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

New Curator

Yes Done

It's UltraAdam. The front page doesn't say that.
Chocolatepenguin (talk | contribs) 19:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Pictures in userpages

I'm only asking this because of the fact it isn't mentioned anywhere. Can we upload pictures for the sole purpose of putting them on our userpages? I'm sure we can, it's just that you may want to put it on the guide to avoid confusion.
Chocolatepenguin (talk | contribs) 12:13, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

I've seen people do it before, and I think it's allowed. Just try not to upload more than about 1 or 2. But then again, I'm not exactly sure, but I can recall them being okay with it.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Due to the pictures (7 or 8) I have to upload several, HOWEVER they should fit within 8 MB.--
Chocolatepenguin (talk | contribs) 15:57, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

New announcement on the News?

The offline editor beta is a pretty big announcement/update. Should it be added as an announcement on the news?
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 10:12, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 10:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
They've already added it.
Chocolatepenguin (talk | contribs) 14:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Accesskeys

It looks like the latest update removed the accesskeys from the navigation menu. D: Can they please be put back? I use them all the time.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmm... Is this what the menu looked like before the update? http://tinypic.com/r/2q3ud8j/5 I don't see the accesskeys. Where were they?
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 14:40, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
That's what it looked like. Accesskeys were keyboard shortcuts, to do alt-shift-[something]. For example, recent changes was r.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:52, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
It looks like it's the swiki-navbar extension that's causing it. I'll see what I can do, but things are pretty busy over here so it might take some time. The extension is on github (https://github.com/LLK/swiki-navbar) so feel free to fork and tinker with things if you're interested.
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 15:44, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm unable to test it (because i just don't have time to set up and install MediaWiki with the Scratch skin), but is it possible that adding the line 'accesskey' => wfMsgForContent( 'accesskey-n-recentchanges' ) ), could work. BTW, help has the same ID as RC.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:08, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Good catch. It turns out the problem was in the ids, actually. I just pushed a change that I think fixes it?
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 19:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes. Now i can use the wiki normally again! :D
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Notification Banner down and Collapsing Search Bars

The notification banner appears to be down and ErnieParke reported that his search bar is collapsing.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:52, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm also noticing that the entire bar at the top collapses on itself in Mobile (and while zoomed in), though that's another issue. Anyway, if anyone's wanting a snapshot of the collapsing Search Bar, here's one: Snapshot
I'm also using Safari.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:39, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Ah yes, that's a problem that I'm seeing on Safari as well. We're working on a fix. Curiouscrab, what do you mean by "the notification banner is down." What should it be like? Are other people experiencing this issue as well?
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 14:29, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I am experiencing it as well, which curiouscrab seemed to leave out of the report. Anyway, there used to be a notification system (on the Wiki) that sent a notification to you if one of the pages on your watchlist was edited
(I also believe the same happened with your user talk, as well as with pages in your name's subdomain). Those notifications would then appear as a banner at the top of a page. The problem is that the banner never appears, even when you have messages, which is what curiouscrab meant by "the notification banner appears to be down" Do you get the idea?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 18:11, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I get what you're saying. I just pushed a change that I believe will fix the problems with the notifications-- let me know if it seems to be working now. At the moment, I don't think the notifications bar is as aesthetically pleasing as it could be. If you have any ideas to make it better, let me know. I did not yet fix the search bar issue.
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 21:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I'll give you ideas about the notification banner when I can, but for now, I don't have any notifications (even though a page on my watchlist was changed on the 18th) Just so that I can see it, could you maybe make a minor edit to my user page? I'm curious what the banner will look like.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:37, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh yes, feedback! I almost forgot about this. The bar itself looks nice, but I think maybe an image of a letter flying in could help make it more colorful. I was thinking about something along these lines, though facing to the right, and also blue: Mail
Also, to make it more pleasing, I thought that instead of making the bar plain grey, why not add some highlights, or other colors? I actually made a bar like this, if you'd like to look. It's at the bottom of my user page, and it displays the date. Thoughts?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 17:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

New Article for "Color Fx Test" Block?

With the new update, there should be an article about the block, and what it does. I don't really know what it does myself, I still have to test it. So what does everyone else think?
7734f (talk | contribs) 22:33, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

They have a new block? So it looks like Paddle2See left that out of the report. In the meanwhile, I think that there should be an article about the block, how ever long the block stays, though you'll need to make sure the article isn't a stub. If it is, then it doesn't really deserve it's own article.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 22:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
"Color fx test"? It sounds to me like they accidentally left a block they were testing in the release and forgot to remove it. I'm on it right now testing it out.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 00:30, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I am almost certain that block is a mistake and still under testing. It's at the very bottom of "Looks". Also, I believe it was accidentally put out there because it is under the reporter blocks, isn't in the tips menu, and so far I can't tell what it does. My guess is they're testing a block that checks possibly what color someone is on... No, that doesn't make sense... It's a stack block wi a number input... Not sure.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 00:36, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Here is the image
Color Fx Test ().png
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 00:46, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I created the wiki article on it at Color Fx Test ()
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 01:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I, personally, don't think it merits an article, because it will probably be removed in the next day or two, and as far as we know, it doesn't do anything. All for deleting, say "Delete."
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 01:25, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Not even for history? Or just pure interest?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 01:49, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I say "delete" only if the block gets removed, but don't forget that we still don't know much about the block. I personally think we should wait on all decisions till after the ST has said or done something about the block.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I think the block should have a page, for historical interest.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 03:47, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
+1
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:17, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Well this "historical interest" wasn't intended, is most likely only going to last a couple days, and wasn't noticed by a huge amount Scratchers. It's different from, say, April Fools' Day because it's a recurring holiday that many people are aware of and the Scratch Team intended the jokes. We don't even have articles that are on most blocks that were in, say, 1.3 and before that were completely removed, and we are making an article that will last for one minor version of Scratch 2.0? And this block doesn't even do anything, as far as we know?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) Last revised 13:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I think the block is only a test right now and will be turned into another block later. I think we should wait until we know more about this block before we do anything, such as what it's name will be later after the test and what it does.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 13:50, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I suggest we just wait until they do something. At least keep the article while it's there for curious people.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 17:53, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

After removal of block

Yes Done

Okay. I added a divider. The block lasted for three days. The ST didn't even put it in the Tips sidebar. Is it still notable? Read my reasons in my above post for more info.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:03, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Let's have a vote, how about, because there seems to be some dispute. I vote yes. How about we wait for 9 votes, and majority wins.

Official Vote Count- first to 5 wins

User Vote Reason
turkey3 no It wasn't intended to be there like the other blocks that were removed.
ErnieParke yes Historical perspective; the Experimental Viewer has an article but is a removed feature.
Mathfreak no It wasn't intended to be there; it wasn't in the "Tips" bar.
Scimonster Unknown There are articles on removed blocks; Paddle2See said every error doesn't need recognized.

All votes are subject to change.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 22:10, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I vote for yes, keep it, because I believe it'd be nice to have around for a historical perspective wether it'd be in its own page, or put on another. And yes, it may have lasted only for three days, but the Experimental Viewer for 2.0 also lasted for a very short amount of time, but yet it gets part of an article: Block_Palette#Experimental Viewer
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 22:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
The Experimental Viewer isn't exactly comparable... but Scroll Right () (block) is. I vote yes. I'll try and ask the ST about it.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Paddle told me: "Ha! Yeah, apparently it was accidentally left in from some test John was doing. Don't know any more than that though. Is it in the Wiki now?" So i said yes. "I'm not sure we want to document every erroroneous thing....? :) What's the purpous - it never did anything."
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 09:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I actually see some what you mean now. Because the scrolling blocks were intended to be in Scratch, and not this. And the experimental viewer was intended to be there. I still keep my vote, though, because I find it interesting. But first you said yes and then quoted Paddle which was basically saying no, so what actually is your vote?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Actually I change my mind and vote "no".
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 13:19, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
What I'd rather compare are the blocks from early 1.x versions of scratch that lasted, although were glitchy. They actually did things, were intended, and lasted for more than 3 days. The Note block only lasted from 1.3 to 1.3.1, but there were other blocks that lasted longer. And this "color fx" block was an experiment that was left in the public version and didn't even do anything? They found it and removed it after 3 days. I wish I wouldn't have to keep elaborating. <offtopic> Paddle spelled "purpose" wrong... :P </offtopic>
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:43, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I'm moving this to le talk page. It doesn't really need to be on the CP.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 14:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm kind of split. It was a mistake being there so it should be removed. But then again, we have articles on April Fools Day and it could be for historic purposes as mistakes in the past.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:56, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

NEW SDS

Yes Done
FIRST SDS ON 2.0, Scratch Doodle! first to call it :D
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 20:00, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Cool.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 09:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Preview of the new Skin and Interwiki in the DACH-Scratch-Wiki

Yesterday evening Joooni managed to translate, customize and setup the new Skin and Interwiki in our DACH-Scratch-Wiki (in just 4 hours! :-) We will test it one or two days and are planing to release it at 2013 European Scratch Conference. You can have a look at the Preview at:

We hope to meet some of you Thursday 26.07.13, 16:30-17:30 at Session 74T-10 ;-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 14:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations with the new skin! I'd like to see what the German Wiki is like with it installed; it should be great!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 17:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Sadly I can't attend the meeting, but I wish you luck. Or belated luck since I'm a little late.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 23:32, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
2013 European Scratch Conference was great! It would have been even better, if you would have had the chance to be there :-). Find some pictures here.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 06:04, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Is there a new forum topic for recommending Scratch Mods for articles?

List of Scratch Modifications has a link to a topic on the the old forums for recommending mods for the list. Is there a new one?
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 14:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, since many Scratchers don't even know how to get 1.4, I wouldn't even consider that people will modify it.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 14:42, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
There is no new topic that I know of.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 23:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Who is ScratchMITWiki?

There's this user that randomly invited this one user to join the wiki. They have no projects and joined about 13 hours before I posted this. Could someone clear this up? Who is this user? Are they official?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:30, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm betting it's another User:Scratchteam account.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:22, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
See Scratchteam here.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:24, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
How do you know?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:39, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
How else would an account like that be approved? Who approved it?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:18, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Well, ScratchMITWiki isn't registered to the wiki. Also, on Scratch, you can just sign up, you don't need your account confirmed, like on the Wiki.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:27, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh, their not registered to the wiki. Never mind. Most likely they're just a normal Scratcher or they're a new ST member.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 02:17, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

We Have an Excessive Amount of Unfinished, Stub Modification Pages

I click on "random page" all the time, and once out of every 3 times I end up on some modification page which was never finished often and isn't even a paragraph long. What are we going to do with these pages?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 15:08, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, Go Lucky is being worked on right now but I'm thinking it won't be completed.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 15:11, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Some of them will be deleted when we get that modification notability guidelines.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Separate Scripting Tutorials into Categories?

On the Scratch Wiki: Table of Contents/Scripting Tutorials, should we categorize the tutorials into groups (i.e. strings, physics, 3D) because its getting kind of filled up and difficult to find individual tutorials?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 15:45, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea. It would be Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Scripting Tutorials/Strings and the same with the others.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 15:55, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
I kept them on the same page but categorized them. Check it out.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 16:42, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Nice. Looks better than before.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 02:19, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Great job!
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:04, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Won't Let Me Undo Change

On the Paint Editor article, it was losing connection when I tried to save, something about a session error, so now it only contains a portion of the article because it didn't process. But now when I go to revert my change, it doesn't let me, and when I click "undo" it shows the code for the current article instead of the previous version I'm selecting. Any help is great, and I tried logging out and in, but it didn't work.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 03:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I fixed it. Not sure why it wouldn't work for you. You'll have to redo the edit though.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Links

What are the rules about linking on the wiki. Do the sites have to be on this list and are they allowed to have adverts?
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 12:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't have to be on the list, but it still has to be a safe and appropriate site.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:52, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. What about if the site has adverts?
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 12:55, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
My site has ads and it's even on the list. I think it's OK.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Special:Interwiki

I was wondering why we're linked with all these sites?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 01:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

They're probably the defaults.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 02:21, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Yep, just defaults.
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 15:07, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

User page subpages

So I was reading through my messages and I found this: is their user page (and subpages of it). (by scimonster) so I was wondering:

  • How to create a subpage of my user page
  • What the purpose of user page subpages is.

Thanks to whoever tells me the answer!
Chocolatepenguin (talk | contribs) 08:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I presume to make one you would go to User:Chocolatepenguin/Sandbox (or whatever you wanted the name to be) and start editing! One use of one would to be able to test your editing on a page which isn't a mainstream page. Another use is User:BWOG/Edit_Rankings.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 08:25, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks!
Chocolatepenguin (talk | contribs) 08:40, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Yep, user subpages are mainly used for sandboxing, transclusion to other parts of your user page, drafts of pages and templates, or information you just don't want on your main userpage.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

New Curator Message

When a new curator is chosen, the front page says "Feel free to congratulate %curatorname% on one of his/her projects!" Now that its possible, wouldn't it make more sense to say "Feel free to congratulate %curatorname% on his/her profile page!" ?
LiquidMetal (talk | contribs) 22:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

+1
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:50, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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